Is this the mother of all weeds?

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    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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    I've got eleven of the Teasels, which is 3 more than last year. I love them as they such striking plants. The birds love the seeds and the bees go mad over the flowering thistle. Centuries ago the thistle head was used as a comb for your hair.....Ziggy still does:hapydancsmil:
     
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      There was a garden full (exaggeration maybe, but a lot) when I moved in, and they continue to germinate. The way that I see it is that there are plenty in the hedgerows if I want to look at 'em!
       
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      For me, they are a plant worth keeping, although they can self seed in the most awkward of places but since there's a fair number of them I can take out the ones that are in the "wrong" place.:snork:
       
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        What? Ziggy still does as a comb?
         
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          Yep, immediately before he had his pic taken at Shiney's Open Day, he's so vain!!!:heehee::roflol:
           
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            But back on topic, this is what I like about this forum. You get to see pics of plants without their make-up on. I've seen pics of teasel in books, and can even recognise it when its in flower as I see it in the countryside, but I'd never have recognised it without the flower head. It looks quite impressive in the pic, and to my mind it would still look good even before its flowers come along. I might have a go at growing some next year now I've seen that.
             
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              I know what you mean Clueless. the plant itself is striking but the seed head with the blue stamens is even more striking.

              Here's one that flowered last year:
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              I would definitely recommend you grow some as they are so different to the usual border plants and they are very attractive to the wildlife.:snork:
               
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                I have a spot earmarked for some too. Will the tolerate limited hours of direct sun? The patch I have in mind only gets about half the day's sunshine.
                 
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                Shouldn't be a problem, Clueless. As I said they tend to self seed in the most awkward of areas and that includes shady areas!!! One last year grew up right beside one of the two big conifers in the garden and was constantly in the shade until the evening. They seem to be happy anywhere:snork:
                 
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                  Is that what he put on my seat before I sat on it? :hate-shocked:
                   
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                    :snork: I had to, I couldn't find any Rosehips.

                    The National Trust put a single head on seats in Dunster Castle to give you the idea the antique chairs are just for looking at.
                     
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                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plants/plant_finder/plant_pages/1244.shtml
                    Extract from BBC site.............
                    "A favourite amongst wildflower lovers, teasels make fine, architectural plants in the garden. Spiny flower heads rise out of the prickly rosette of leaves in summer. These are covered in pinkish purple or white flowers in mid- to late summer. They then dry to an attractive shade of brown and make fine dried flowers for arrangements. Teasels are biennials so they need to be sown in late spring where they are to flower the following year. Beware that once established they will self-seed freely."

                    This states that Teasel is biennial . So you plant in spring and it flowers the next year. Will that plant flower every year after that :scratch:
                     
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                    No, Harry, it won't but what happens that the generations of self seeded ones will "stagger" the flowering so that you end up getting some teasels flowering every year.:snork:
                     
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                      Thanks Armandii , so Biennials take two years to flower , and then another two years for the next flowering ? Seems very wasteful if you only have limited planting space , must be OK for these estate gardens with huge beds , but as others have posted every plant must earn its place in the garden - if it underperforms - to the green bin with it !! I know I am probably missing out on some stunning biennials .
                       
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                      What you find, Harry, is that you do end up with the flowering every year because of the number that seed and, well in my garden:heehee:, you miss one it fills in the blank year. To me they're a worthwhile plant as they're very striking and go through the Winter looking fantastic with the frost on them.
                      This are the current Teasels I've got in the borders after already taking out a number because they were in awkward places, and some still are in "debatable" places.

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                      There's actually 3 Teasels in this pic, one is hiding behind the nearest plant and is to the left.
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                      This is probably in the wrong place as it's competing with a Rose "Kings Ransom" and the Clematis on the Trellis entrance, but I'm holding off pulling it out as so far the other plants seem unaffected.
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                      There's also one inside the Trellis entrance being smothered by the Clematis and Sweetpeas so there's a fight going on there!, plus there's probably another 3 or four dotted around. So as the birds and insects love Teasels I guess they're here to stay......with some judicious control:snork:
                       
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