An ALERT for Mr Wiseowl please

Mr Wiseowl ( or anyone else who can help), could you please help identify this rose fir me please......

Similar colouring to a Peace, and certain characteristics, large flowers 5" plus, glossy leaves vigorous growth can be 5' by Sept, can send up blind shoots upto 6' hlgh.

However according to " The Rose Expert" book, Peace has little fragrance... Mine is heavily fragrant. And Peace is late flowering..... Mine usually starts in April.

 

I have shown woo a similar one,each yr i wait and hope for an ID from somewhere by chance,yours does the the same and mine is over 40yrs old

 

Yep, I would say that's the one, mines about 12 yrs old.

 

I Love it,darrans nanna planted it,so its been there 40 to 50 yr,it doesnt seem like a climbing type but its long branched,i have to keep it trimmed as it near the front door attacking the postman if i dont,this yr it has a lot of buds i think i trimmed to much previously

 

Here is a bud opening in june 2013..

 

It's funny you mentioning climbing, for a few years I had visions of digging it up, mines right on the pavement, it just seems to grow bushy from the base every year rather than actually climbing.

I'm mote than convinced now that we have the same one

 

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Il take a pic tomo of it spread as it is now,i piled it with manure months back to see if that would replenish it again as it did nothing last yr but i think i pruned it at wrong time and too hard!
It seems to grow out sidewards than upward but more lenghy/leggy than a bush type
Ours is rooted right at the house wall sw facing,maybe i should prune it right back this winter??

 

Anthony.....Woo (wiseowl) will probably need a photograph taken looking at the rose face on. He may also need a petal count as well.

 

Sorry this has taken so long the petal count is 54 plus 4 small petaloids in the centre.



This is a new flower just opened.

 

Thank you Mr Wiseowl, I love that history. I knew it was named at the end of the war but who would have thought all that happened. Amazing.

Mine tends to lose the pink as it ages, if that's any help.

 

Hi Mr Wiseowl definitely not Whisky Mac, I've grown that before. Arthur Bell, no that's a floribunda.

I'm beginning to think it's a Peace but instead of being true it may be a sport.

I know that Peace has sported before for example Pink Peace and Kronenbourg, which is new to me this year.