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Advice on climbers

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by sandhun, Mar 21, 2018.

  1. sandhun

    sandhun Gardener

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    Can anyone provide guidance on these specific climbing plants please? i.e. which ones to plant where.

    I have a metal garden arch on which I hope to grow a climber on either side and also have an unsightly white wall to cover / hide.

    The 3 climbing plants I have (currently in pots) are as follows:

    1) Russian Vine (fallopia)
    2) Climbing honeysuckle (Lonicera Japonica Repens)
    3) Penny Lane (climbing) hardwell Rose


    Which two climbers should be used to cover the metal arch and which one is better suited to hide an ugly section of white wall? ps I would like the rose to be planted one side of the arch but as for the other side I don't know if honeysuckle or vine would work better.

    In order to make the plant climb the wall I'll most likely attach a piece of trellis. The metal arch is 2 metres high and is fairly sparse/basic, i.e. there aren't too many horizontal sections for plants to cling to.
     
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    I would go for the honeysuckle to go on the arch with the Rose. The two scents work well together, and they often flower at slightly different times.

    The Russian vine I would suspect would be too vigorous for the arch. You would spend so much time trying to control it, you would not be able to enjoy it, or the Rose..
     
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      If it were my garden, I wouldn`t even consider planting the russian vine - not even to cover the ugly wall - it will take over and kill anything else in it`s way.
      Maybe some Clematis for the archway to go with the Lonicera and Rose.
      Maybe you could consider a Parthenocissus for the wall, or a Climbing Hydrangea (or both) as they are self supporting, and will cling to a wall all by themselves :yes:
       
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        Years ago in another garden I did grow a Russian vine along a 60ft wall. Isn't called the mile a minute vine for nothing:yikes:. It climbs by twining so the trellis should work if you decide to plant it. To me it is never that spectacular even in flower and I certainly wouldn't grow it again. Agree the Honeysuckle and Rose will be fine for the arch.
        You don't say how long the wall is? There are heaps of other types of climbers and Tetters has mentioned a few already.If and only if the wall is in good repair don't discount Ivy (can I hear others yelling their disapproval:)!) If a wall is sound before the Ivy grows up it the Ivy actually protects the wall, is evergreen and makes a great habitat for wildlife. I don't mean the boring dark green Ivy there are lots of very colourful varieties to choose from. If the wall is big and wants covering fairly rapidly along with Tetters suggestions have a look at Vitis Coignetiae. i grow this and tetter's suggestion of Virginia Creeper, both lovely but are deciduous so won't cover up much of the wall during winter.....Ivy on the other hand!
         
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          OK thanks, going ahead with honeysuckle & roses for the arch for now. Will consider adding a clematis too.

          Hmmm, interesting to see your comments about Russian vine. Wondering why on earth I bought it now (I think someone at a garden centre had recommended it to me). Last year I think I bought it in late summer - it grew in a pot and did reach a fair height but it was manageable.

          Here is a picture of the unsightly wall I wish to cover. It's not a big space. Width of the raised beds is 2.4 metres and height of the wall is 1.6 metres.

          I have a nice, sturdy piece of trellis that I plan to use on that wall - if I stick the trellis up vertically I'll have to burrow it a few inches into the soil within the raised bed as it will pretty much reach the top of that wall - or I could affix it horizontally meaning it will cover more of the wall width-ways but won't reach the top
           

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          You could use the Russian vine as a quick fix for the wall and cut it out/kill it in a few years time when something more suitable as started getting established, ive done this with the Russian vine i cut it to the ground this year as my honeysuckle and clematis are getting more established.
           
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            @sandhun, maybe you could build that bed by the wall a little bit higher to give roots a bit more space, especially if you decide to grow a clematis in there, as they like to be planted deeply.
             
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            Did you find the vine difficult to get rid of Martin? I had the same idea a few years ago on a very large pergola that looked rather empty at the time. The vine got so big so quickly, that the pergola needed repairing when I eventually tackled the vine :doh:
             
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              Ive not tried to kill it yet Tetters but ive cut it back for the last two years and kept it under control ok, this year cut it just above soil level i want it do do some work on the lower half of my fence then i will kill it, its nothing like bine weed i would imagine its easy to get rid of it if you keep a note where the main root is.
               
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              [​IMG]Mine was like a blimmin triffid... will never ever grow another one :nonofinger:
               
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                This was it last year i have various clematis honeysuckle roses pea climbing amongst it i am hoping they will cover the fence themselves this year without the Russian vine.
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                It does grow quick but if you keep on top of it its ok as a quick fix, same with most things if you do not cut it it will over grow this just does it quicker than most things.
                 
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                If I were you I wouldn`t go on holiday for more than two weeks before I killed the root dead!!:snorky:

                ps Is that an everlasting pea growing with the clematis?
                 
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                  Yes Tetters everlasting pea no scent but they look nice and the bees love them.
                   
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                  This is so true. Gardening at times may seem to be dominated by lots of do's and don'ts. In fact it gives us all the chance to test out other ways. YES take advantage of what you have, and never be afraid of disgarding one thing for something better, in your eyes.
                   
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