13 year old father

I think it goes back to the old deterrent thing again and living in this nanny state where you can't touch your kids.
When I was young right up until I got Married at 23 my dad would have killed me, well not literally, but he would have been so upset and angry with me if I had got pregnant.
I knew this and was to afraid to risk it.
Same in schools no respect no deterrent.
I'm not one for beating kids but they just think they can do what they want today without any consequences because the law says it's O.K to do what you want without any punishments.
I don't think being afraid of doing wrong is a bad thing.
These silly kids will have to grow up fast and miss out on so much.

 

According to the tabloids she has been, ahem, the town bike, and has had sexual relations with up to 5 other "boys". So this stupid, immature and munchkin of a 13 year old might not even be the father.

You couldn't make it up.

Regardless, I do not think a 13 year boy is capable of being a father. Most 13 year olds aren't even capable of deciding what GCSEs to take.

 

Every town has kids like this. Why bother to use contraception, its a quick way to get a house or flat. The state will bend over backwards to give them money, furniture and probably holidays, in the mean time they can have a few more kids, until they get fed up with it all. If you are a student you will have to pay your borrowing back, this makes good sense. I don't think I knew what it was all about whien I was twelve, well not the finer points.

 

This discussion has got somewhat negative, so I'll just talk about the factors I feel relevant.

As my mum has mentioned, yes from a young age (early teens) sex and most adult situations have been open areas for discussion and I am very grateful for that as I feel it prepared me better for the world we live in. I do have sexual relations (even though I'm less in the mood than I was in my younger days) with my missus and we use two forms of contreception every time (condom and pill), its not worth chancing in my mind.

Also to quote my dear mum "Sex ain't worth dying over" (This quote has been cleaned up a little haha), which is correct as there are too many nasty things going around in terms of STDs (or do they call them STIs now?). Fair enough few are fatal, but you could use the example of a seatbelt. If you don't wear a seatbelt (or a condom) your more likely to die in a collision (or a "romantic" collision haha).

In conclusion Condoms are excellent. :D

 

Hmm! Well, "there for the grace of God etc." I'm 60 and from the age of 11 onwards, most of us lads would have sex with any female we could. We knew how babies were made, of course but were careful there were no pregnancies. The girls were even more careful, unmarried pregnancies just weren't acceptable in those days. The world has turned

 

Yes another 15 year old boy as come forward asking for DNA tests.
He now says it's his baby.
Obviously after a piece of the lime light.

 

I'm 60 too and wonder where it was you were living!
If it turns out to be where I grew up, I should have burst out, at the age of 18, with the Gershwin song "How long has this been going on?"

 

I have to agree with you there. They have endless uses. They are better than balloons for making water bombs, you can stuff your money in them and tie them up to keep your notes dry if you want to go for an impromptu swim when on holiday, and there are endless drinking games involving condoms

Joking aside though, yes that's a good message. The trouble is, I suspect, that too many people who would use them are to embarrassed to buy them, as if the counter clerk actually cares either way.

 

I was married, with three kids and still felt embarrassed-maybe that`s the Catholic in me, but it`s there nonetheless.


A 13 yr old lad though would have a certain swagger walking round with a pack of Durex in his pocket, although perhaps not if it had been unopened and past it`s use by date lol.


Seriously, I have an issue with the fact that the perception is that this lad was just led astray and only following his manly urges yet the girl is described as an ugly trollop. Get real, he was as big a slut as she was.

 

Funny how we don't tend to think of boys as being sluts, only girls, yet as you say it takes two to tango. I suppose in this case him being younger has made it look that way.

As I was saying to a friend, getting pregnant is only one side effect of sex. Too many teenagers (and adults) forget that there are a whole raft of nasties out there you can catch-the less severe of them can make you infertile, the worst kill you.

Forget the controversy of teenage girls going on the pill and accept that teenagers now have sex and make condoms, both carrying and wearing them acceptable and the norm. For everyone!

 

He said his father gave him £10 'sometimes' - so he wouldn't have much money
left to buy such things as condoms if he bought sweets/crisps and perhaps cigs?
Perhaps his father should have provided them.....

 

I think you and I would have been in the same year at school and it can`t have escaped your notice kids were having it off then, some in 3rd yr ( 14 yrs) 4thyr (15yrs) and 5thyr (16yrs), the difference, as far as I can make out, is that we were s**t scared of our parents finding out we were even touching each other up, now the kids aren`t "bovvered", that`s because they don`t get enough slaps as kids.

I stopped when it started to go too far, but not because I was particularly chaste-but because I was far too afraid of my Dad and what he`d do to me if I came home pregnant. That and I didn`t want my father to feel ashamed of me.

These two from what I have read feel no sense of shame and no fear.

 

Yes, I remember those kids well. I was a late starter and I went to a decent school so a lot of it went under a radar but I do remember one "mad" (and I mean that in the literal sense, he was out of control) boy having mars bar parties :cnfs: Took a long time for me to figure out what that meant

But yes, I too had a healthy respect for my parents and more, fear what would happen if I got into trouble.

 

Aaron, what are Mars Bar parties?I have never ever heard that term, so it has obviously taken me longer than you.

But then I went to a Catholic school and it was spin the bottle. Or-do you remeber playing "nervous"?

 

I grew up in Northern Ireland, so sounds similar. No idea what "nervous" is though

I can't say about mars bar parties though. Use your imagination.