Brexit -am I stupid or what

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  1. Fat Controller

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      Is it true that Nigel Farage is creating a new populist political party, this time to campaign for England to leave the UK? (before UKIP think of it)

      It would leave tricky 'Backstop' issues for the new remaining UK (Scotkand, Wales & N.I.) to deal with, England saddles the others with the UK's debts and England has a Conservative majority in perpetuity, etc., etc.
       
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        Are you his policy writer and campaign manager? :heehee:
         
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          Yeah, sounds like a good idea to me, England "jump ship" before the others do.
           
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            Your new nickname is "Positive Pete", pete:love30::thumbsup::dunno::heehee:
             
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            Ahh, Christmas is gone and the Brexit fiasco continues :(

            MP's have voted to amend the Finance Bill in order to bugger an already buggered process even more! I find it staggering the utter shambles this parliament has created.

            Ministers defeated over no-deal Brexit
             
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              Our MP's will never allow brexit to happen. Too many high flyers making money from the System as it is to allow brexit. :noidea:
              Just imagine how weak we will be when we ask to remain in europe:sad:
               
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                I think the UCJ decided we can stay if we want to and without having to ask.

                But I have no confidence in the MP's ability to tie their own shoelaces at this point but stay or go, they can't seem to deliver either!
                 
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                  I think that it actually one of the few intelligent interventions so far. The headline is misleading - all it does is stop the government from raising taxes disproportionately to cover the cost of a no deal scenario without the approval of parliament.
                  It protects the tax payer from the political ambitions of those who advocate leave at any cost.

                  By far the worst thing on the news this morning was the sound of John Redwood lying as he stated that countries would just continue to honour the existing agrrements that we have with them as part of the EU. He knows full well that that is not possible - trade agreements are not just about tariffs, they cover the whole trading relationship including culpability, enforcement, standards, customs proceedures, licenses etc. His behaviour was disgraceful!
                   
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                    "I could tell he was lying - his lips were moving"!
                     
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                      How do they determine 'disproportionately'? :scratch:
                       
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                        It's determined by John Bercow....:scratch::whistle:
                         
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                            I think the whole thing is now a shambles, and it's all down to parliament and those idiot MPs.
                            Not to mention the Lords,...... best not to mention them at all.

                            I'm pretty much sure that I will never bother to vote for any MP ever again, none of them are worth my vote, they have disgraced the country with their back peddling and conniving ways.
                            They can, and should, all rot in hell.:biggrin:
                             
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                              Aye, democracy in this country is absolutely dead. I shall pay my taxes purely because I have no choice, but that is it from me now - no point in voting, as my vote will not change anything. It is a matter of time until the infrastructure is so badly busted we cannot fix it, and all the while we will be being ruled by Germany and France (and maybe China).
                               
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