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Are gaps in overlap shed ok?

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by Voobwm, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. Voobwm

    Voobwm Gardener

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    I wanted a 7x5 shed with double doors and pressure treated. I could only find overlap sheds like this so I bought one.

    The overlaps have large gaps especially in the back wall as it’s a wider wall I guess. They're downward gaps as it’s overlap.

    And then a vertical gap where two walls meet.

    I just wondered if this is ok and normal? I guess it’s normal but is it ok? I’m concerned about damp in the shed and creepy crawlies.

    I want to get a second one this size and type so before I do I’d like to know if the gaps are fine and normal. I read that airflow will stop damp. My house attic has gaps and airflow but no damp, anloughbthat does have warmth from below!

    Thanks
     
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    Large gaps does not sound normal to me. On any wooden shed, there is always going to be a degree of difference between the panels that lead to small gaps, but they should be exactly that - small. Also, if there is large gaps between the pieces of overlap itself, then again that does not sound right at all.

    Small gaps can be sealed with silicone, but large ones would likely not hold the silicone until it set. The only thing I can suggest is to overlap the gaps, but that would have to be done carefully to make sure you don't inadvertently encourage water to trail back down behind whatever you put over the gap.

    If you are dealing with a new shed, I would be inclined to get the retailer/manufacturer to sort the defects out before you do anything.
     
  3. Voobwm

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    Didn’t realise I could attach files. So couple of images attached.

    Vertical gap should be fine to seal but am more concerned with the overlaps
     

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      The vertical ones look within reason to be honest - I would be inclined to whack a few screws between those battens with a mate squeezing/pushing them together, then silicone thereafter. The gaps between the overlaps however are horrendous. Is this a new shed?
       
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      Yes new shed. Just looks like they’re all warped. I wondered if it’s due to the wall not being straight or something but when I try like pulling/pushing the slats in they don’t close up at all so think it’s just a bad wall. I can get my finger through some of the gaps.
       
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      I tend to think some people lose sight of the fact that it is a shed.
      Its not a garden building as such, its a shed.:smile:

      I'm guessing its shiplap?
      The design of sheds are that the timber will move, swell in wet weather and shrink in dry weather, often warp a bit as well.
      Admittedly sheds are not built as substantially as they used to be, nothing is.

      But I tend to think you will get this kind of thing, its nothing new really.
       
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        @Voobwm idont think that’s right on a new shed.. We all expect shrinkage and warping on a shed but I certainly wouldn’t be happy with that. I certainly wouldn’t want to be able to look through those gaps..!

        I would return to the supplier with your problems.. To me that is not right.. Can’t be weatherproof or secure...
         
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        Think its all down to the price and quality the shed is supposed to be.

        My its nature overlap strips will move and warp to some degree, so it might be a difficult one to say its faulty, but no harm in asking though.

        In the first pic, the joint of the two panels, did you erect it or the supplier ?

        Either way it looks like its not properly screwed together or some high spot is stopping it mating properly and needs trimming off.

        Ideally a bead of silicone or suitable mastic should have been put on the joint before screwing together.

        Would at least squeeze a bead of silicone on both the inside and outside of that gap, ideally seeing if you can use some additions screws to hold it together better.

        If you have seen @Fat Controller s recent Shed thread , going for a shiplap type gives a much more robust construction, though at a price.
         
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        @pete "I tend to think some people lose sight of the fact that it is a shed."

        I expect a shed to be able to keep the contents of it dry and damp free. So if it will do this with those gaps its fine, thats why I was asking. Trying to establish if the contents will be OK, or will it be a problem with damp or water getting in. Its not fabric contents, just garden equipment, some plastic and metal objects.

        I want a another one to store my bikes in though. And I may want to put some fabric in there, like garden chair cushions inside a cushion bag, so the bag itself would be fabric.

        "I'm guessing its shiplap?"

        No its just plain overlap. I could not get shiplap which is pressure treated and a 7x5 apex with double doors on the 7' length.

        I am tempted for the next shed to build my own, by buying all the necessary parts, the same as the other shed, but then I can buy better panels like tongue and groove or something, then I can avoid bad quality products bought online. I would buy one online if I can find a shiplap or tongue and groove pressure treated 7x5 apex with a double door in the 7' length.
         
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        Well just had another look at the pictures.
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        Does look almost like a fence panel I must admit, not very solid construction either.
        It's probably never going to be totally weather proof more a case of do what you can with it really.
        Ok for keeping gardening equipment but not ideal.
         
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        To keep it dry you need a good roof. To keep it damp free you need good air circulation and you've got that alright lol.

        The shed looks like a standard cheaply made shed to me. It should do what you need it to.

        My mothers shed is dropping to bits but it has a good roof. Theres full boards missing off the sides in some place. That's a 5 inch gap. The shed is dry as a bone and as damp free and can be expected for a shed.
         
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          Roof seems alright.

          Worse case if the massive gaps cause issue I can rip them off and put some better boards on the back.

          I know its cheap, but I thought if its pressure treated, and wife wants to paint it anyway, and its not storing perishable items, and still dry inside, then should be fine, its wood so I can always screw more wood and screws in to toughen it up a bit!

          But based on comments I dont think I will get another one like this for the bikes and a few other things like the seat cushions. I will look to get another better quality one, or build one even. As long as its same size and shape and similar doors next to that one it will be fine.

          No reply from supplier about it yet, been two days though so not that long.
           
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