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Fuschia identification

Discussion in 'Identification Area' started by Sian in Belgium, Sep 29, 2019.

  1. Sian in Belgium

    Sian in Belgium Total Gardener

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    I know this is a long shot, but I was wondering if anyone can identify this fuchsia for me...
    Flowering in coastal Normandy, late September, hand in shot for scale. IMG_20190928_101950560.jpg

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    Its hard to say other than a Fuschia Magellanica species , looks like the bob standard one to me though
     
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      Hi Sian. Having a love for fuchsias and grown far more than I can remember. I have to admit, NO I wouldn't attempt to begin an identification. Please don't misunderstand me. I love a challenge and I love researching. However with the genus, there are probably thousands of named plants. Often many are so, so difficult to identify.

      Perhaps to help in identifying plants.
      As much information about the plant as possible,flower, colour, growth habit etc etc. Location, date obtained/planted etc. Any smell to the flower or leaves including when lightly crushed.

      For instance. 'I got this plant from my local GC last week and have lost the label. Clue. GC's tend to offer the latest. So there's a starter. Parks & gardens including the National Trust usually have a very upto date record of all plantings. Sorry I can't help more at this point.
       
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        I understand, Mike! I realise it’s a near-impossible ask. I suppose my question is more along the lines of “is there an improved form of the magellanica species, giving darker and larger leaves and flowers?”.

        Well, there’s what I have always thought of as Fuchsia magellanica at my parents’ place. I have a rooted cutting of that plant growing in my garden (which has been flowering for the first time this year!).
        This french plant is strikingly different. (Growing about 3 miles in from the limestone white cliffs coast, soil seemed to be a good fine tilth with flint). The leaves are quite large, dark green, with a reddish edge, and central vein. The flowers are a good 3-4cm long, and as you can see from the photo with my hand, very floriferous. Both the leaves and flowers are firm, rather than soft and delicate. For info, I do not have a dainty “lady’s” hand - I wear men’s gloves, large size!
        The plant was very bushy, and standing over a metre tall, and wide. It looks as if it is cut back hard each winter.

        Comparing the leaves with my magellanica plant is probably not very helpful, as the soil here will have weakened it. But my plant is pale green, leaves well-spaced in the stem, very little red on the stem. The cutting I have brought back the leaves are more the colour of holly, more dense on the stem and much more rigid. No notable fragrance from the leaves that I have noticed.
         
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        Agree with Mike.
        There are 2 really excellent books..... now very old...on Fuchsias sp and cultivars.
        1,000 Fuchsias...followed by a 2nd one 500 more.
        I dread to think how many more named cultivars have been created since these were printed.

        Quote......"1000 FUCHSIAS by Miep Nijhuis
        This book is a reference source for fuchsia enthusiasts which will serve as a guide for all those who are keen to either start or broaden their collection of plants. Illustrated in full colour throughout - each of the 1000 varieties are pictured - the book is published in collaboration with the Dutch Fuchsia Society which was founded in 1965 and is the largest in the world. The book covers a vast range of cultivars, species and varieties and discusses cultivation requirements, with illustrations arranged according to colour and flower-shape. Checklists in which the plants are gathered by colour, type, flower-size, training and growing requirements are included as well as a list of recommended further reading and useful addresses."

        1000 FUCHSIAS By Miep Nijhuis | Used - Very Good | 9780713475876 | World of Books

        https://www.amazon.co.uk/500-More-Fuchsias-Miep-Nijhuis/dp/0713479418
         
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          So, @Mike Allen and @Silver surfer, in short, the answer to my question is a most definite “YES!” - and it was worthwhile trying to get a cutting of this very different-looking Fuchsia magellanica....
          As the current “Hereford” form is growing in probably the best place for such a plant in my garden, if the “Fécamp” cutting takes, it will be grown nearby. We shall see how the two plants compare!
           
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            • Mike Allen

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              When I saw Sian's fuchsia photo,I thought of Riccartonii but the name just wouldn't come to mind. One of those flat brain moments.
              Perhaps in a sense of speaking. IMO the much beloved fuchsia has become victim of it's own success. For the gardener, the fuchsia is generally so easy to grow and propagate, so much so that the market has been over supplied with 'New varieties' I use quotes here because in my own intensive interest, I feel that perhaps many, 'New varieties' have been given a new lease of life, having been perhaps bred and marketed some years previous and now thought to be a newbie. Mostly fuchsias and roses can be incorrectly identified simply upon the flower. In the case of fuchsias, yes the flower looks so much like......Then looking closer at the foliage and also the vast variations asto growing conditions etc the gardener can begin to appreciate, as with many things in life. Appearances is not everything.

              As I've mentioned before. The Internet is a wonderful aid, and we all can learn so much, using it. As long as there are no objections. I will gladly list my books etc on the genus Fuchsia, so that my gardening friends may perhaps while away the forthcoming winter evenings browsing.

              Perhaps I might add. If you see, come across a plant of whatever it's horticultural/botanical classification might be. Please don't allow the lack of a name etc to spoil your appreciation. Try and obtain a cutting and label it. Not known. To YOU always remember. ''Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder''
               
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