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    As I have said before, there are so many things that we could and urgently need to fix but I think a lot of folks have hung their hat on CO2 as being the issue and created an entire industry around it. Other scientists, rightly, question this (although we never hear their arguments on so called 'accredited' publications/website/media - for example, nobody seems to be able to give a definitive answer as to how CO2 is causing warming? It is not an insulator, it doesn't hold heat, and it is at 0.004% concentration in the atmosphere, so isn't even remotely close to a cloud or a blanket.

    If we truly want to make things better, we need to get away from destroying economies, vilifying ordinary people's lifestyles and charging people a fortune for no environmental benefit.
     
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      Wouldn't dream of it! :nonofinger: :whistle:
       
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        The answer to that is simple...the so called "experts" know that if they ever do try to explain it, they'll get shot down in flames faster than a Heinkel bomber over Biggin Hill :biggrin:

        Want to know some environmental uses for CO2?
         
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          Well a couple of years ago we actually had a shortage of it and the food packing industry was saying it was going to cause shortages, along with problems in the brewing industry to name a few.

          Apparently the companies that make it had shut down for maintenance or some such reason.
           
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            Most on here will have seen something in the media as regards single use plastics, and how the Greenies are complaining about them in the environment. Fair enough, that is their right. However, many of these are also saying that its a good thing not only to put plastics in the compost heap, but also aluminium and mineral oil! It just does not make sense until we realise just how uneducated, and these people are! The big problem is, many are just believing all they say, and just blindly following them!

            I would suggest that what they really need to do is learn more about the complex subject they are shouting about. Especially someone like Greta. How can someone, a child, that has left school at 15, and still legally a child possibly be considered educated and experiences enough to know what they are talking about?
             
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              Nobody has a monopoly on wisdom .
              But there are those who think they have.;)
               
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                pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                I used to be conceited, .........
                But now I'm perfect.:biggrin:
                 
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                  Thats rather a generalisation my friend,I left school at 12 and there are many who are legally educated but but know less than Greta;)
                   
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                    I achieved 8 'O' Levels at age 14 but had to stay in school till I turned 15 in the UK. At 15 I entered Commercial College in America. So age has nothing to do with it. However, I admit I did not have worldly experience or knowledge to know what I was talking about, just book knowledge.
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                      I think the point is that Greta is only saying what she has been told, she's not been around long enough to form her own opinions.
                       
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                        Hello @pete I've been around long enough to form my own opinions problem is they are always wrong:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                         
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                          Exactly, @pete

                          @wiseowl my friens theres a term for someone that has opinions that are always wrong, its called "married man" :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                           
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                            If you're married, that poses a conundrum! :scratch:
                             
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                            I used to be undecided,
                            But now I'm not so sure. :noidea:
                             
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