After Brexit - am I stupid or what?

Not a really viable equation, Wee Tam I'm not a real fan of NATO as it's got too many "empire" builders, is slow to make decisions, is unwieldy, and is spending more on "would be" Politicians and Administrative Buildings than it spends on weapons, training, and resources. It's effectiveness is more myth than a hard striking, fast moving organisation and, probably, we'd be spending Roubles as our National currency if the Ruskies were to come before NATO's many medalled, smart expensive uniformed High Command could decide what to have for lunch.
But, having said that, however doubtful I am about the EU's real ability to defend itself, we need to co-operate in Intelligence, some sort of alliance to act together in a military fashion etc. The EU, itself, has threatened, over the last 4 years, to cut Security Intelligence, Space and Scientific Research, etc, sharing and co-operation but knows that we contribute more than they can afford to lose. They will, no doubt, go over the same old threats in the next 10 months but I think they're coming to realise that they are facing a different stronger, Government than they have ridden over so easily in the past.

 

The Egyptions actually used that, pete, when Museum staff broke the beard of Tutankhmun's off the mask and was only discovered when experts were looking at it.

 

Do we ask the French for repayment of the £16,000 per year (in those days) of the money we gave Louis XVIII to support him in exile in England from 1807 - 14 during the reign of Napoleon?

I remember it well.

 

EU member states can claim whatever they like, I doubt they'll get it and then we'll be off in December anyway and we'll take it from there.

Boris has been exceptionally quiet as PM. Far more so than I expected and it's not coming across well to the public... He needs to find his voice again and perhaps not listen so much to that little weasel Cummings

 

Actually, it's just the EU that's putting more bricks and mud in the trading wall as it appears that the Greek Ambassodor to the EU has said they have not included, for their part, any demand for the return of the Marbles to be included in the EU Trade Talks, but that the subject is a long standing request to the UK. So it appears that the EU is learning to use "fake news" in the Trade Talks.

 

Bunch of muck stirrers that they are...

 

It's about the tiny member states having zero credible defence abilty for when Russia decides to stomp on them. Having an EU army, in theory, enables better placement of defence strategy. Doubt it will happen or if it does, work.