Corona Virus Treatment

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  1. Mike Allen

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    Black Orchid. Thank your for your reply. I truly sympathize with you. A few years ago. The government did issues directives to doctors to be more concerned over the prescring of antibiotics. So often a patient would basically be given a handful of antibiotics as if they were smarties. Having said that. Government then also dictated how much time a GP should give, in listening to the patient, a rapid examination etc. I believe it was in the region of four to seven minutes. So The infamous antibiotic sometimes filled the gap.

    You are absolutely correct in questioning treatment. May I express my sincere condolence at your sad loss. Now please continue to take care of your own condition. Best wishes. Mike.
     
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      Even by my own experiences, I know how wrong the 'experts' can get things - I would not have ended up in hospital a couple of years ago were it not for a neurologist who made a decision and put me on two very strong medications, one of which was a steroid which deliberately stopped my immune system and went on to induce steroid induced diabetes, with not a thought given to any precautions I should have taken.

      When in hospital and in a coma, there were apparently issues with my skin and these were ongoing when I awoke - they could not understand why my skin was so dry, particularly my feet and lower legs and were covering me in all sorts of creams and lotions. When I got home and was able to move a bit, I started to peel off the problem 'skin'... which was in fact the creams and lotions that had dried on and the repeatedly applied layers that dried as a film each time had formed quite a thick covering.

      Or, there was a drug that I was to be given as I was starting to wake up - not entirely sure what it was, but it should have been put under my tongue - - that was put into my eyes, and dilated my pupils so badly that I could not tolerate light in any form for a couple of weeks.

      Don't get me wrong, the majority of what was done saved my life - without them, I would not be here, but I cannot and will not blindly trust that all the experts know what they are doing, or that they are always making the right decisions, especially when those decisions are done in a rush and under pressure.
       
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        This was written into one of the Albertan newspapers and I think this fellow sure got it nailed.

        "The light at the end of the tunnel is growing brighter. Those of us who wore masks, isolated ourselves with immediate family, separated ourselves from all others by two meters (or much more), washed our hands fastidiously and thus remained virus free, are about to be rewarded for our diligence. The vaccine will be provided to all of us in an order that benefits those who need it most. The wilfully ignorant who scoff at the science behind disease avoidance, who laughably cite their ‘freedom’ to do so, who imperil those of us who are not ready to die, have talked the talk. They must now walk the walk. Go to the end of the queue to receive the vaccine and do it double time. This is the price you must pay for your stupidity."

        Makes more sense than totally denying the useless articles help in any way!
         
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          :ideaIPB: Maybe the mask refusing anti-vaxxers should be kept Apart, and have to travel in seperate buses, train carriages, aircraft, etc., use seperate schools and unis, and live in seperate townships, etc., etc. ?

          I'm surprised nobody else has thought of this :stirpot:
           
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            I think separate continents would be more suitable for this lot. It's summer in Antarctica isn't it?
             
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              But they are in denial Scrungee, it wouldn't be possible to enforce this. Do you honestly think they wouldn't lie to carry on as they are, with no thought for anyone else?
               
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                Hello all

                I do not usually post in this thread but things are getting somewhat personal.

                Due to my Autism I am unable to wear any kind of face covering as I am unable to tolerate it.

                Also, for different health reasons I am unable to tolerate many kinds of vaccinations.

                Am I included in your plans for those people who do not wear masks or plan on not having the vaccination?

                Kevin
                 
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                  I think some people might have missed that my post above was comparing such segregation to Apartheid and USA pre-civil rights segregation.
                   
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                    @Kevin Cowans no one thinks vaccines should be forced on people where it might do harm. They're just kibbitzing about the people who flaunt the rules just for the sake of it and to be jackasses.

                    I have a grandson on the Autism spectrum. He is non verbal so certainly not high functioning like yourself but it gives me an idea of the challenges faced by many people.

                    I'll line up for my shot when all the groups are who more vulnerable than me have had theirs. ;)
                     
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                      @Kevin Cowans we are certainly not referring to people such as yourself who are justifiably exempt from wearing a mask. :) It's those people that are deliberately flouting the rules because they are either purposely obtuse, don't care about other people or have a supposedly personal reason not to do so.

                      Due to complaints by customers I'm currently dealing with the head office of a superstore where a large proportion of the staff are flouting the law, and the company's policy, when the manager is not on duty. Today, before the store manager arrived for work, 17 out of 52 staff were not wearing masks. Ostensibly, they have all produced exemption notes. On further investigation they were found to have downloaded them from the internet. In future they will be asked to provide a doctor's certificate to show exemption (no different from producing a sick note from the doctor). The store has been losing trade because of the complaints on social media.

                      From speaking to some of the mask wearing staff I have been told that the reason the staff aren't wearing masks, all happen to be youngish females, is that they don't want to mess up their make-up. :doh: I'm not sure how true that is but it wasn't part of my brief to look into that :noidea:. The manager shall be dealing with it.

                      It's those type of people that are causing the problem.

                      In our village shops they have a good way of helping those who genuinely can't wear masks. They either phone the shop with their order or come to the door with a shopping list. One of the staff immediately does their shopping for them. One of the advantages of living in a smaller community. :blue thumb:
                       
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                        Which to me begs the question, who do you trust? Yes, the vaccine has been rushed, out of necessity, but it’s apparent to me that corners haven’t been cut. In the past, funding and bureaucracy have been the main reason for the delay on making a vaccine available. Do you intend on waiting another ten years to allay your fears?
                         
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                          I trust nobody 100% - that has been a legacy of my entire life however @Freddy (very long story); no, I don't intend on waiting another ten years, I would rather wait a matter of a few months and see how it is all rolling out, and this is why I personally would do the roll out the other way up... give it to the healthy folks first. If someone healthy was to have a poor reaction to the vaccine their body is at least in a position to give it a fight and hopefully come out of the other side unscathed whilst giving up vital information on any unforeseen reactions. My body is not in that position (it wasn't at the start of the year, let alone now) so any fight would be quite likely to be fairly short and I would also take that same vital data with me.
                           
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                            Looks like the police are getting involved in Coronavirus Regulations enforcement again :rolleyespink:

                            Police in Tier 2 areas 'argue with pub landlords over Scotch eggs' - LBC

                            Trouble is, that with bird flu lockdown and culls back again, there could not only be a shortage of poultry for Xmas/New Year, but also a shortage of the scotch eggs that are necessary to enable pubs to carry serving customers. The scotch egg buying panic may have already started :yikes:


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                              Good morning well Woo trusts everyone through his rose tinted glasses:heehee: yes have been let down many times in the past and probably in the future,I have close family and friends working in the frontline (Hospitals,Intensive care)who have said that they are going to wait and see,I respect their decision but I don't agree with it,If and when the Covid vaccination is available I have made a decision to have one ,I have no evidence one way or the other that it is safe just a gut feeling that it is the right action for me,sometimes I think I am prone to over thinking things so that's why Woo follows his gut feelings from time to time,anyway have a lovely weekend and stay safe my friends;):blue thumb:
                               
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                                Picture taken outside Harrods on Saturday. As you can see, everyone is wearing a face mask and all at least 2m away from the nearest person...:dunno:.

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