Corona Virus Treatment

I'll ask some of my friends (if I remember ) whether they had to sign a form. I would guess not as that would take rather a lot of admin. Does anyone have to sign a form before any vaccine?

Looking to the future, there are bound to be restrictions on some of the things we can do if we don't have proof of vaccination (I understand that Quantas have already stated that they won't allow passengers to board their planes without it - once the vaccine is more available). So some proof should be asked for.

@Mike Allen keep that card you were given. You may not be intending to fly anywhere but I'm pretty sure that when restrictions are relaxed there will be access restrictions in some places.

 

I believe the Pfizer one was a non-starter for me anyway due to the contra-indications that have slowly been released by the manufacturer, particularly those relating to people who have allergic reactions and those who have conditions that affect breathing. It seems clear that the bulk of the testing on these has been forced to be done 'in the field' due to the situation, but that is exactly what the concern of many folks was.

It is also even more concerning that AstraZenica have apparently said yesterday that they have doubts about the effectiveness of the vaccine against the SA variant, hence the talk of further restrictions next winter again.

 

Would that not be coercion though? I am not anti-vax, but I am anti-force, and whilst the government have stated that they won't force anyone to have the vaccine what powers will employers have? Will folks be sacked if they refuse to have it?

 

I haven't the faintest .

International travel restrictions have always been imposed with regard to certain vaccination certificates (Yellow Fever being the toughest one) and I'm pretty certain that holiday insurance will contain restrictions governing what they offer depending on proof of vaccination - or exemption. Cruise companies have also had a 'no cruise without insurance' policy.

It wouldn't surprise me if this extends into other walks of life. At the moment, technically, we aren't allowed into shops and public places without a mask or exemption. I know a lot of people are ignoring it but I think things could easily be tightened up - as, apparently, the Met have been saying they will do so.

 

Therein lies my point - there have been a number of cases where people with exemptions to wearing masks have already had trouble getting into shops (admittedly thanks to argumentative oiks who have done so purely because they don't want to wear one and they want to make a stand), but what of those folks who are not vaccinated who are then subsequently denied access to the likes of Tesco?

International travel I can understand as nobody has a right to it, nor is it a basic essential to life - - but getting your milk and bread....

 

I don't think they would do it for the likes of Tesco but possibly for cinemas, gyms etc.

 

I agree, they have already been working on coronavirus variants for many years as flu is also a similar variant (that's why they were able to produce the vaccine so quickly - and because a lot of money was chucked at it). So they reckon that they are able to track and change it so the vaccine will work. If the variants change greatly they will have to bring out a new one each year - just like the flu jab.

 

If folks pose a health threat to a work force then the Employer has a right to protect their employers and the business. I don't think many people would like working close to any person who has refused to have a vaccination on the grounds that it offended their rights when everyone else had taken on the responsibility of protecting others and had the vaccination.
Individual rights and the demand for the protection of those rights carry responsibility and consequences, so waving the Flag of Human Rights is a good sight to all of us but not when ignoring the safety and health of other while possibly spreading the Virus. Refusing to take the vaccination is not a strengthening of individual rights but the weakening of the rights of others to be protected.