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Tomato Growing Thread 2021

Discussion in 'Edible Gardening' started by JWK, Jan 4, 2021.

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  1. JWK

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    Good idea Scrungee, I don't have space for one at home and wouldn't want one at my allotment. I only grow things at the allotment that can look after themselves for a week or more. So no tomatoes or runner beans etc.

    I have resigned myself to finding some tasty blight resistant varieties. Plus grow a few susceptible varieties like Sungold and Gardeners Delight in containers, so it's easier to change the growing medium.
     
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      Does blight only come from getting the leaves of the tomatoe plant wet then???
       
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        Reasonably warm damp conditions are ideal for blight.
        Those wet summer days when it just never seems to dry up, or a few days of drizzle with no wind to dry things out and everything just hangs with water.
         
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          So growing in my greenhouses will be ok next season then….even though i have bought blight resistant tommy seeds for next year
           
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            pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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            Its not impossible to get blight in a greenhouse but the chances are lower, especially with good ventilation.
             
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              It will have two windows each side and on one end……..so plenty of ventilation in there. I may even have the door made with enviromesh instead of glass yet, but not 100% sure on that
               
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                Mostly blight starts with farmer's fields of potatoes and the blight spores blow into gardens. It is the same fungi that infects potatoes and tomatoes. To a lesser extent infections can be down to poor hygiene within a garden, i.e. if you leave an infected potato tuber to sprout again the following year on your compost heap (or your neighbour does). Also infected tomato leaves put on your own compost heap might in turn find their way into your greenhouse.

                There is a website, Blightwatch, that tracks the spread of blight and can give warnings when your postcode area is likely to be at high risk. Trouble is what can you do when you get an alert? If you shut doors and vents to keep out spores, then the greenhouse overheats!

                As pete says the fungi needs the right conditions to thrive. Most of the UK has been warm and wet this season, but some places have not been so humid and are blight free. Scotland is traditionally blight free due to the cooler weather conditions up there. I'm not sure about Wales @jowwy you may be in a good position being so high up as probably not many potato farmers nearby.
                 
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                Well theres defo no potato farming anywhere nearby and as far as i know, only myself in the nearly 20 houses around me, growing my own fruit and veg. But it does get humid up here in the summer months
                 
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                  I can't actually understand that @JWK ,my thinking is that farmers probably spray spuds to prevent blight, so surely their crops are not spreading blight. :smile:
                   
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                    I think the blight prevention is a surface coating rather than systemic prevention of infection @pete so the spores would still spread
                     
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                      I see where you are coming from, I based my response on what I noticed in the past on Blightwatch, that site reports late blight infections verified by agronomists who visit farmer's crops and take samples. Blightwatch completely ignores us amateur back garden growers. It costs Farmers to spray so they won't unless it saves their crop. So I reckon it starts on early potato crops, usually these are harvested before late blight arrives, so no need to do a prophylactic spray, all they would do is remove the tops to prevent spread.

                      Lots of assumptions, sorry.
                       
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                        There is probably a farmer's forum where the members are all blaming us gardeners for blight ;)
                         
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                          When I was growing up (Linconshire) a lot of it used to come from dumps of damaged, rotten potatoes. Sometimes you used see a ditch full of potato plants.
                          The advantage of a greenhouse as well as ventilation is the dry atmosphere as the blight spores need a film of water to germinate in and then spread in to the tomato/potato plant. So the absence of dew, rain on leaves reduces infection rate.
                          The spores spread very readily on the wind and this is probaply the main route of infection.
                           
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                            The only potato growing going on around here is down on Romney Marsh, which is a fair distance away.

                            I do get the wind bourne idea, but I can't help thinking that I grew tomatoes in the 70s and 80s and although I had heard of blight I never saw any, in fact I wasn't sure what it looked like.
                            Then one wet summer it struck and I've never been totally free of it since.

                            I can't help thinking it's over wintering on something or somewhere and just reinfects the next season.
                             
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                              I suspect farmers don't fork over their fields after harvesting to remove all the spuds their machines have left in the ground, and in the spring digging out all the volunteer spuds they've missed sprounting amongst their next crop, plus at allotments I see blighted tubers getting chucked onto disused plots, into margins, hedges, etc., or even overwintering in compost heaps.
                               
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