1. IMPORTANT - NEW & EXISTING MEMBERS

    E-MAIL SERVER ISSUES

    We are currently experiencing issues with our outgoing email server, therefore EXISTING members will not be getting any alert emails, and NEW/PROSPECTIVE members will not receive the email they need to confirm their account. This matter has been escalated, however the technician responsible is currently on annual leave.For assistance, in the first instance, please PM any/all of the admin team (if you can), alternatively please send an email to:

    [email protected]

    We will endeavour to help as quickly as we can.
    Dismiss Notice

Petrol Lawnmowers - new vs old

Discussion in 'Lawns' started by Engelbert, Jun 30, 2022.

  1. Engelbert

    Engelbert Gardener

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2014
    Messages:
    71
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    UK
    Ratings:
    +10
    Hi folks

    I need to get a lawnmower. I've got two "lawns" and a whole load of paths to cut. None of it is particularly flat, and it's not really a lawn as such - more just an area of grass! So no need for it to look like Wembley, no need for stripes, etc Up until not I've been doing it with a strimmer. And I might continue to use the strimmer on the paths. But for the two "lawn" areas it takes ages with a strimmer.

    What are people's thoughts on old vs new? There are a few old Honda Izys about, and some old Mountfields and Kawasakis and similar. All around the £150-£200 mark. Not knowing much about such things, I'm not sure if I am better off with one of those or getting a brand new budget machine in the same price bracket.

    Any thoughts from those more in the know?

    Cheers
     
  2. Loofah

    Loofah Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Messages:
    12,573
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Guildford
    Ratings:
    +21,657
    I've always had petrol mowers but when this one conks out I'll be replacing with a battery powered one. Actually quite looking forward to it!
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • JWK

      JWK Gardener Staff Member

      Joined:
      Jun 3, 2008
      Messages:
      30,835
      Gender:
      Male
      Location:
      Surrey
      Ratings:
      +46,029
      How big is your lawn, guessing it's not very large if you can strim it?. So have you thought about electric rather than petrol?

      I'm not sure an old petrol would be reliable and considering they are over £100 just to get serviced I would avoid, unless you are handy and can maintain and service yourself. I used to have a Haytor rotary which lasted me 18 years, they are well built for a domestic brand plus you can get all the spare parts online. It got too heavy for me so I got a Mountfield which is very cheap and cheerful, built to a budget I wouldn't recommend their newer models.
       
      • Like Like x 1
      • Agree Agree x 1
      • Jocko

        Jocko Guided by my better half.

        Joined:
        Jan 2, 2022
        Messages:
        2,417
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        Retired engineer. Now Vice CEO of the garden.
        Location:
        Danderhall on southern edge of Edinburgh. Zone 8a.
        Ratings:
        +6,780
        I have a Qualcast petrol mower with a Briggs and Stratton 148cc engine. I bought it in 2014 and it has been excellent. During the time I have had it I have cleaned and oiled the air filter once. I never touched anything otherwise.
         
        • Like Like x 2
        • pete

          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

          Joined:
          Jan 9, 2005
          Messages:
          48,109
          Gender:
          Male
          Occupation:
          Retired
          Location:
          Mid Kent
          Ratings:
          +85,611
          I took my old one down the tip yesterday, it was at least 15 years old and was not a posh one by any means, cost about £150 I seem to remember.
          It was always a problem to start, especially when hot.
          I bought a cheap mountfield one last year and it's so much better, lighter for a start and starts first pull usually with none of that stupid messing around priming it.
          It cost about £220 i think.
           
          • Like Like x 3
          • CarolineL

            CarolineL Total Gardener

            Joined:
            Jun 12, 2016
            Messages:
            1,616
            Gender:
            Female
            Occupation:
            Retired Software engineer
            Location:
            Rural Carmarthenshire
            Ratings:
            +4,325
            I have a petrol one with electric start because I don't have the knack of a pull start. However when it dies I think I'll replace with a Ryobi battery one, as I have other Ryobi tools and multiple batteries. For a small area, if you already have some battery tools (Ryobi, Bosch, Makita), it's worth buying a bare unit.
             
            • Like Like x 2
            • Sandy Ground

              Sandy Ground Total Gardener

              Joined:
              Jun 10, 2015
              Messages:
              2,268
              Gender:
              Male
              Occupation:
              Making things of note.
              Location:
              Scania, Sweden
              Ratings:
              +5,368
              From my own experience, and not wishing to upset anyone, even if it might.

              The first mower that I bought after moving into this house was a Hayter. A Hunter 46 Autodrive if I remember correctly. Without a doubt, this was the worst mower quality wis that I have ever owned! The self propulssion was pathetic. At the start of the 5th season, it needed quite a bit of work on it replacing parts. At the start of the 10th season, the aluminium deck had cracked badly. Even if I am capable of welding aluminium and therefore repairing it, the alloy they used was of so poor quality, it was like welding cheese. I do wonder in fact if a bit of mature cheddar was not mixed up in it! The end result was that all that could be salvaged from it was salvaged. The rest went to the tip. In other words, unless Hayter quality has improved dramatically over the past 30 years, another Hayter will not be coming here again. One other thingabout it. The cutter blades here cost back then5 times as much as replacemnts for my current mower do now!

              The replacement, an American Yardman is now in its 23rd season. It still starts first pull after Winter, as well as every time I use it! The self propulsion is brilliant as well, way better than the Hayters. Even if there have been some minor things done over the years, there was nothing serious until a few weeks ago. The engine needed a lower main bearing replacing. Nothing major in my world, and at no cost as the replacement part was pulled from the old B&S in the Hayter. A couple of hours work, and it was again running perfectly.

              From what I have just written, it can be understood that I have zero experience of battery mowers. The one doubt I have about them, and the reason I dont want to have any experience of them is this. Their batteries will have a limited lifetime. Apart from the fact that they are expensive, by the time they need replacing, they will probably not be available anymore. In the world of battery powered items, things move quickly!

              In conclusion, forget the battery powered things, and get something that will last!
               
              • Like Like x 3
              • Informative Informative x 1
              • Loofah

                Loofah Admin Staff Member

                Joined:
                Feb 20, 2008
                Messages:
                12,573
                Gender:
                Male
                Location:
                Guildford
                Ratings:
                +21,657
                A shared reservation about battery powered things... But my new mower, when I get there, will still be a battery one.
                 
                • Like Like x 1
                • Sandy Ground

                  Sandy Ground Total Gardener

                  Joined:
                  Jun 10, 2015
                  Messages:
                  2,268
                  Gender:
                  Male
                  Occupation:
                  Making things of note.
                  Location:
                  Scania, Sweden
                  Ratings:
                  +5,368
                  That might be the same for us all after 2035...if we are still alive, that is!

                  Having said that about batteries, there might just be a solution when they are needed. One I discovered with my cordless drill a few weeks ago!
                   
                  • Like Like x 1
                  • shiney

                    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

                    Joined:
                    Jul 3, 2006
                    Messages:
                    61,301
                    Gender:
                    Male
                    Occupation:
                    Retired - Last Century!!!
                    Location:
                    Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
                    Ratings:
                    +118,257
                    My old Hayter 56 was bought in 1994 (I think) and is still working today. Two years ago I gave it to the gardener that does all my heavy work for me now as I found a pull start was getting a bit much for me when doing a lot of mowing. He said it still starts first pull and he uses it professionally.

                    I replaced it with the modern version of the same with press button battery start (there's no pull start at all). It's an expensive machine but is a hard workhorse that is needed for my amount of grass.
                     
                    • Like Like x 2
                    • pete

                      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

                      Joined:
                      Jan 9, 2005
                      Messages:
                      48,109
                      Gender:
                      Male
                      Occupation:
                      Retired
                      Location:
                      Mid Kent
                      Ratings:
                      +85,611
                      I'm sure the climate change bunch will eventually get around to banning lawns altogether. Bearing in mind the fossil fuels used to cut them and the water used to irrigate them.
                      I wonder how much carbon could be saved if we all had some gravel:smile: instead. ;)
                       
                      • Like Like x 1
                      • Funny Funny x 1
                      • Loofah

                        Loofah Admin Staff Member

                        Joined:
                        Feb 20, 2008
                        Messages:
                        12,573
                        Gender:
                        Male
                        Location:
                        Guildford
                        Ratings:
                        +21,657
                        Oh no Pete, can't have gravel due to the deleterious effects of production! Very bad for the environment that :whistle:
                         
                        • Like Like x 1
                        • Funny Funny x 1
                        • pete

                          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

                          Joined:
                          Jan 9, 2005
                          Messages:
                          48,109
                          Gender:
                          Male
                          Occupation:
                          Retired
                          Location:
                          Mid Kent
                          Ratings:
                          +85,611
                          Well I'm being really green, because it's mostly dust atm and in winter it's mostly mud.
                           
                          • Funny Funny x 2
                          • Like Like x 1
                          • Sandy Ground

                            Sandy Ground Total Gardener

                            Joined:
                            Jun 10, 2015
                            Messages:
                            2,268
                            Gender:
                            Male
                            Occupation:
                            Making things of note.
                            Location:
                            Scania, Sweden
                            Ratings:
                            +5,368
                            No, no. The last Snotalot I met thought gravel was a drug because it got the garden stoned!:heehee:
                             
                            • Like Like x 1
                            • Funny Funny x 1
                            • Liz the pot

                              Liz the pot Total Gardener

                              Joined:
                              Jul 1, 2015
                              Messages:
                              1,042
                              Gender:
                              Male
                              Ratings:
                              +1,259
                              I had a conversation with a Stihl rep over their battery range and we chatted about the levels of charge as they offered 3 and the life span of the batteries ie. When they hold 80% of the charge.
                              He came back with a 2000 plus charge limit.
                              The forgotten bonus for battery equipment is noise level but they also have a greatly reduced vibration level. It’s just the price for the more commercial stuff that’s annoying.
                               
                              • Like Like x 1
                              • Informative Informative x 1
                              Loading...

                              Share This Page

                              1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                                By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                                Dismiss Notice