Car Tax - Not quite a rant (yet)

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  1. shiney

    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

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    Have you checked up on what your car tax will be when you have to renew it? It depends on the size of the engine and/or its carbon dioxide emissions and/or its age :confused: :eek:

    If you are renewing from now on it can cost you up to �£400 this year :eek: :mad:

    Fortunately for me my car is too old to come into the newer tax brackets.

    This first link gives you how they work out the new charges and the second link is a calculator for you to use to find out about your car.

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524


    http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/ved/
     
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    No use to me then.

    This proves to me that the government is just using global warming as an excuse to tax us as highly as it dares, and making taxes so complicated we (the stupid public) just agree to pay it.
     
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    Hi Shiney,

    My car doesn't even come up anywhere! Suppose it would be the �£120 but sure that was cheaper than last year???

    Another easy way to get tax perhaps?

    cheers
     
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    So that's 3 of us it doesn't effect. Any more? Maybe the gov. is not going to win this one (some wish).

    cheers
     
  5. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Its got me confused shiney, but then I suppose thats whats intended.
    My reg doc says 0.416 of CO.
    So thats no help whatsoever, its not even Co2.
    Surely the Co2 per Km, is dependant on how many traffic jams the powers that be deciede to create, and not on the vehicle.
    ie. if I sit for hours in one of those created jams like "operation stack" or sit at those traffic lights that are always green for the direction that there is no traffic, I will produce more Co2 per Km.
     
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    mine will be a fiver more next year, just taxed it for 12 months though so it gives them plenty of time to change things again!!

    this link seems to cover more cars to get the emmissions details, the vecacarfueldata site didn't cover mine even though its an 04 model.

    http://www.smmtco2.co.uk/co2search2.asp
     
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    Typical stupidity, the guy in the ancient 2.litre non turbo diesl that beltches out emisions pays owt were as folk like myself driving large modern less poluting vehicles get hammerd.

    Just means that the cost of things goes up thus hitting folk without addressing any enviromental problem.
     
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    I have two scoobs, one post 2001 which is costing �£400 and one pre 2001 which is costing �£180. The older car has no catalytic converters, as I removed them for performance gains, and will defo be more polluting than the newer car.

    I do however refrain from air travel and I only do 2k miles a year !!! so whilst I have a more polluting car/s I am actually less polluting than a 1000cc super mini doing 10k miles a year.

    The whole system is MENTAL !!! and as I have said many times before everything should be paid for at the pumps, usage is the only fair way of taxation. You buy a poor economy car, you pay more in fuel simple ! You use your 1000cc unecessarily covering thousands of miles each year, your choice but a choice thats taxed each time you fill up [​IMG]

    And if the environment is so in danger that we motorists are the route of all evil, why is air travel having such a huge expansion, more runways anyone :rolleyes:
     
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    My Focus estate is �£120 and my wife's Mazda MX5 is �£210. She does barely 4,000 miles a year.

    They introduced car tax into the petrol price in Gibraltar last year. The locals complained when the price went up to 54p a litre.
     
  11. shiney

    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

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    Well, It didn't take long to reach the (yet) bit in the title [​IMG] :D :D
     
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    My car does about 12,000 miles a year and Mrs shiney's car does about 2,500 but both cars are too old to come into the new fuel charges. That seems to encourage us to keep our old, and probably less efficient, cars.

    Nice one, Gordon! [​IMG] [​IMG] :confused: :confused:
     
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    No, Your freelander is a turbo diesl!!!! :D
     
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    "The whole system is mental", yes it is, but adding more tax at the pump would be more mental, we pay enough already for fuel, full stop.

    The government are skint and the "Greens" keep giving them this lifeline, 'Tax us all out of existance to save the planet', it wont work but it makes 'Gordon the grinning moron' look good.

    As to air travel, I think they have a green tax on that as well, so the best thing to do is build more runways so we get more tax, its simple.
    Or perhaps we are in voting for them.
    (I didn't by the way) :D
     
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    I usually spoil my paper these days pete, then it gets registered as a protest vote.

    What's also interesting is that the tax is based on post production emissions, I would be interested to know what it cost the environment to build the car ?

    I would go further and have both insurance and tax levied at the pumps, just think of all the police resources that would be freed up from not having to chase untaxed/uninsured drivers.
     
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