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    You can, Andy, Miracle will encourage growth for the Roses, but it would be better to use a Tomato Feed which Roses really appreciate. The higher Potash level in Tomato Feed will help the plants produce more, bigger and better flowers. I use Miracle Grow to feed them one week and Tomato Feed the next and so on.:snork:
     
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      Thanks Armandii. I have Tomorite too so will give them some of that first.
       
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        One website I looked at says roses like a PH of 5.5 to 7 so just assumed they prefer slightly acidic soil.

        Oh and when I say they haven`t been fed in a while, I mean years :whistle: He`s 82 now and can`t get out much these days so his roses have been neglected a bit.

        He still religiously feeds the birds though. He lives next to a wood so gets blessed with plenty tits and chaffies amongst others.
         
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          I wouldn't get too worried about the ph of the soil, Andy. Roses are gross feeders and so long as you make sure they're getting fed, have a reasonable soil with perhaps an adding of compost to bulk it up they'll be fine. I garden on sandy soil with about 350' to 400' of sand, and a near neutral ph, under my garden so water and feed would drain away quickly if I hadn't improved the soil with garden and commercial compost over the years.:snork: If you feed the Roses as advised you should see an improvement of sorts this year [it is a bit late!] and definitely next year if you feed them up to the end of August this year and start feeding next year when you see the Roses starting to come into new growth.:snork:
           
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            When would you advise pruning? I heard either just before winter or around the end of Feb'. I realise the earlier you prune the earlier you bloom but when would you say?

            Sorry for being a pest :SUNsmile:
             
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            Good evening Andy I would respectfully suggest March is the best time,and I have never fed my roses but that is only my personal choice,hope this is of some help to you my friend:)
             
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              This is what Gardeners Corner is all about, Andy, we all help each other. I'm not a Rose Specialist, more of a general gardener, but after a recent thread that was posted I did a mental check of the roses I've acquired over the years and realised I'd got around 18 different varieties, which was a bit of a shock. There are acknowledged Rose Experts on GC the foremost being Woo who's knowledge of Roses is legend.:love30:

              "The earlier you prune the earlier you bloom"??.....mmmmm, I'm not sure about that as the time of blooming will normally depend on the variety of Rose as some flower earlier than others.:snork: Not knowing the state of the Roses I would recommend you give them a medium prune [taking off around half of the length of the stems] just when they come into growth. Pruning would then be around March onwards.:coffee:
               
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                I posted the last post without realising Woo was also posting but my words about him hold true:thumbsup:
                 
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                  Good evening to you too esteemed rose guru :love30: :)

                  I can understand you not feeding them but I`d guess you have them in good soil and they were getting fed that way.

                  The soil these roses I`m on about are in soil that has never had any manure, top dressing, nothing for god knows how many years. Totally spent I`d say.
                   
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                  Hi Armandll my friend thank you for your most kind words:redface::)
                  Andy I tend to suggest pruning in March that way the ealy frosts cannot do any harm to the pruned ends:)
                   
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                    The only reason I said that was, many years ago, some guys at work were discussing roses and that has stuck with me for 30 odd years. One swore by pruning Oct/Nov and the other Feb/March. I have one rose which I got last year and have never kept them before. It`s not doing too well though. I just dead-headed its only two lovely blooms the other day. :cry3:
                     
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                    Andy I see you say the Roses are coming into bud which seems OK,are there any other problems wit them:)
                     
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                    Some gardeners half prune Roses in the Autumn to prevent wind rock of the roots [loosening of the roots] thereby reducing the wind resistant of the stems and then prune properly in March. Give the Roses some TLC and they will respond.:snork:

                    Hi Woo. good to see you flying around again!!.:snork: I only told it how it is with regard to our regard and respect for you on Gardeners Corner.:coffee:
                     
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                    I really don`t know woo. He lives an hour away and am only going on what my beloved is saying. I don`t really pay attention when I`m there but she`s going through tomorrow so I`ll get her to have a good look and report back.

                    Thanks for the help you two :ThankYou:
                     
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