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  1. Marley Farley

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    :SUNsmile: Hi everyone, I have ripped one of my hedges out & in the process of having a wall built.. It will be south facing..
    Bottom 4 or 5 ft high with 12-18" railing along the top.. Will decide on finished height when it reaches 4'.. :spinning:

    My idea is to cordon train some fruit trees against it.. Here is my dilemma.. Do I do it traditionally & can anyone recommend some varieties for me, or has anyone any experience of these..?? :scratch: http://www.marshalls-seeds.co.uk/[email protected]&utm_campaign=TwFruit
    If I do it traditionally I could get 4 trees comfortably.. With these grafted 2 onto 1, will they be a non starter.. A novelty tree perhaps, what do you think.. i have never bothered with these sorts of things in the past

    So any thoughts anyone would be great..
    thanks Marley.. :SUNsmile:
     
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    Not grown the multi variety ones but then again, i've not heard of anyone moaning about them.

    I couldn't see any reference to what type of rootstock the apples are grafted onto in the ad. You'd probably want an M27 or an M9 to keep the fruit within reach.

    Might be worth laying out a bit more money to get a 4 year old ready trained if you can get hold of it. Don't want to be waiting years for a crop at our age do we:snork: ;)
     
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    Um, I'm probably a bit old fashioned but tend to think that "novelty" is just that and you might be better looking for four "proper" trees.
    My other thought is that if you are planting where a hedge has been, nutrients may have been depleted, and digging in some decent compost might be a good idea.
     
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      I couldn't see where they said how old the trees are. They might just be little twigs still.

      There are a couple of nurseries round here that are selling apple trees that are already about 6ft tall and already producing fruit, for between £20 and £30.
       
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        Hmm thanks guys, I thought they might be a bit of a novelty.. We have a nursery close by so I will go & have a chat with them & see what they have...
        Oh yes Dave don't worry I shall be digging plenty of goodness back into the new border don't worry Dave..
        Any suggestions for a nice eating apple, crisp & juicy but not a Cox.? I want to go with Conferance pear as they are my fave, think I might need 2 though for pollinatiom is that correct.?
         
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        Are we talking just apples? If so I'd go for 4 trees each a different type. The trouble with these 'family trees' (multiple grafts of different varieties) is they are limited to so called popular choices, that link shows Braeburn and Bramley on one tree. Whilst Bramley is a good choice, all the advice I had was not to try growing Braeburn in the UK unless you are in the South and even then to expect variable results. If you are limited for space then they are certainly worth considering, but you are not.

        I spent a little while working out what varieties for myself and ended up planting Fiesta, James Grieve & Egremont Russett as Espaliers after getting advice from the RHS Wisley Apple Tasting day and our members:

        http://gardenerscorner.co.uk/forum/threads/apple-recommendations-please.46726/
         
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          Cross posted ooops.

          Yes, that is a great idea, get some local recommendations :)
           
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            :blue thumb: Thanks John, I am not a Breaburn eater & I did fancy a James Grieve I have to say.. I will go to the tree nursery later then & have a chat.. Will let you know what I find out.. :SUNsmile:
             
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            Tree nursery should be a great help. I don't think having several varieties on a single tree is a new thing incidentally. Pretty sure it's been around for many years, I think it's called budding and you can have as many varieties as you like on one tree.

            I'd buy a few trees you like and experiment yourself with the budding technique.
             
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              OK next stop tree nursery.. Thanks guys will let you know.. :blue thumb:
               
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              Hi, I am new to forums but I think you will be able to get some good solid advice on fruit for uk gardens from [link removed by admin]
               
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              Hi Debbi,
              You can put your Nursery in our business directory free of charge but no spam on the main boards please:)
               
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