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Hozelock - product quality poll

Discussion in 'Tools And Equipment' started by Fat Controller, Jul 24, 2013.

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What is the quality/value for money of Hozelock products?

  1. Superb quality, but only the premium or high cost products

    28.6%
  2. Superb quality for all products

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Poor quality for all products regardless of the price tag

    50.0%
  4. Poor quality for the cheaper or specific products (please post which in thread)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. So bad I won't buy their product at all

    21.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. silu

    silu gardening easy...hmmm

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    Thank you Phil, I duly got replacement nozzles from Hozelock which appear to have sorted the problem, thank you very much. I would however mention that the sprayer wasn't bought until about April of this year and had never had any liquid in it until about the end of May, so no likelihood of frost/freezing liquid doing any damage. I am not completely convinced about the handle/trigger on the wand either. It doesn't seem to respond instantly when I release it. I will have a test with it over the next couple of days and see if it's still sticking.As you will appreciate when using weedkiller around plants it is vital that a sprayer works accurately. As I mentioned in my email to Hozelock, I had a green 1 of your sprayers for years and years. It had a different handle/trigger than my new 1 which worked extremely well and I never had any issues with the sprayer. The only reason I got a new 1 was the old 1 just got passed it....bit like me then!
     
  2. Fat Controller

    Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

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    How to make a gardeners day - by Hozelock

    A parcel arrived this morning, containing a new handle and new spray gun, kindly sent by Phil @HOZELOCK C/S - not only am I delighted to have my lance back in working order (so much easier, especially for the troughs up on my outhouse roof), but I am over the moon with the new spray gun also! :dancy:

    It's different to my old one (new model or higher spec model), and it is a completely different animal to my old one; Solid metal body (stainless steel), lovely rubberised handle, and really nicely damped trigger action - and not a leak anywhere. Indeed, I am now wondering if Hozelock do metal hose end connectors of similar quality to this spray gun, because if they do, I am buying some.

    Interestingly, the new handle for my lance also feels completely different - much smoother trigger on it, better sprung and the lock-on button works properly (never worked at all on the old one) - I am now left wondering if something happened to the old one when it was on display in the shop.

    Anyway, top marks (and thanks) to Phil, and Hozelock :dbgrtmb: - my faith is restored!
     
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    • Kristen

      Kristen Under gardener

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      Not sure if it is the same one I have, but I bought the metal-connector spray gun after having a couple of the plastic ones and them only lasting a season or so before starting to leak. The metal one started to leak after a couple of season (so I have to turn it off at the tap after use now). Its not a running leak, just a drip ... but ...

      I have metal connectors. I couldn't swear that they are Hoselock brand though. Unlike the push-fit plastic ones I have to retract the collar when pushing them together (bit hard to explain) so they actually lock-on much better than the plastic ones (I can't just push them together without "assistance" though). Don't get me wrong, its no hassle, and I think it is a good thing because I think it makes them together more tightly as a consequence. They aren't going to crack if you run over them with a loaded barrow, for example :blue thumb:

      But the part that has the teeth that grip the hose is plastic, so it still suffers from the same failure after heat & cold cycling of being left outside.

      As I think I said before I've moved to the Geka connectors that the professions use. I've left them outside (continuously) for 3 or 4 years now and they still work just as well as the day I got them, they are all metal,a s is the all metal connectors for taps, nothing is plastic (there is an washer-seal component, but they are readily available - and Hoselock has an O-ring equivalent of course)
       
    • Scorpio1968

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      As mentioned in the opening post about "tat that is overpriced", there is that saying, "you're only paying for the name". Other branded and unbranded products do the job for a lot less. Yes, Hozelock is well marketed and it works too - we have probably all bought Hozelock at some point and there will be equally happy and unhappy customers.

      The trigger will certainly start leaking if left to the mercy of even the slightest frost. I only have the smallest multi-spray head myself which i stored in the shed last year and even that wasn't enough protection for it. That was the third or fourth one i'd had in as many years but i just made the annual trip to the retailer and quoted trading standards etc and got it replaced on the basis that it hadn't lasted a reasonable amount of time for the purpose for which it was designed.

      About being well marketed though, do we really need all those fancy spray patterns and has anyone actually ever used them? The only patterns i use are the shower and jet. I remember years ago when Hozelock only did the basic shower pattern which was quite adequate for most applications, accept when i needed to blast bird lime off the car, in which it was just a case of unscrewing the head, leaving just the trigger, and when the lever was gently squeezed, you had a soft wide start which progressively tapered to a powerful concentrated jet the more you squeezed the trigger. I had one of those for years and eventually it succumbed to fair wear and tear - something the current models on the market from Hozelock wouldn't know anything about.

      Unfortunately, we live in a throw away society today and this is a bandwaggon that Hozelock are on along with many other manufacturers. The less their products last, the more we buy and the more profit they make.
       
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      • Sheal

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        Scorpio......you're right about whether we need the multi head sprayers. My son bought one three years ago, which I removed two years ago after he moved out as I wanted to use the hose for a sprinkler. It hasn't been back on since, I find a thumb does just as well. :)
         
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        I must admit that I do use at least three of the different spray patterns on the new gun, with the aerated water one (one I haven't seen before on one of these type of things) being the main one that I am using as it seems to see the water being absorbed more easily than some of the other patterns; the wide spray is handy for my growbags as it is just like rain, and the shower is handy for baskets etc. In fact, I also use the mist spray when I am watering seedlings.

        The other thing I would reiterate is the difference in quality in the gun that I have been sent when compared with the plastic one that had failed is really quite remarkable; in terms of longevity, only time will tell, but so far it seems to be a far superior product.

        I am also going to bring my guns/lance/sprinkler etc indoors over winter (they can hide up on top of the cupboards in the kitchen) and hopefully save the cold getting to them.
         
      • shiney

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        I think that a lot of modern equipment has more facilities than we really need but it doesn't necessarily detract from the product. We, mainly, use only two settings on the nozzle but have occasionally used some of the others. With our washing machine and dishwasher we rarely use more than one of the programmes!

        Unless the paperwork that comes with gardening equipment says it needs to be put away for the winter I rarely do so. The spray nozzles remain on the hoses and I can't remember them having been damaged by being left. They still get used, to a small extent, during the winter. I do put the sprinklers away in the shed as they aren't needed and would get in the way. I left one of them out one winter and ants set up home in it :hate-shocked:

        I have had the occasional disagreement with retailers and manufacturers over if and where garden equipment should be stored. Garden equipment instructions rarely say that they should be stored away in the winter and I did, once, have a battle with a retailer and the manufacturer over a pressure washer that had stopped working. They said it was because it had been damaged by frost. Although there were a number of arguments that I could have used they, eventually, backed down (after saying that a garden shed isn't frost proof enough) when I suggested that they didn't really want to argue in court that a garden shed wasn't the right place to keep garden equipment :heehee:.

        Garden equipment is expected to be robust and most manufacturers take into account that their product will get some harsh, but not undue, treatment.

        I'm not sure I would agree with the comment "The trigger will certainly start leaking if left to the mercy of even the slightest frost" as it shouldn't happen if normal care is taken. My (very cheap, not Hozelock) spray nozzles stay out throughout the winter and the current ones have been in use for at least three years. The only precaution that I take for the winter is to make sure that the trigger is in the open position so the water drains out. Then there is no internal pressure from ice forming in the cold weather. The plastic shouldn't be affected enough to fail so easily. Keeping the nozzle in the open position also reduces pressure on the hosepipe during freezing conditions.
         
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          I recently bought a Hozelock Fast reel which hangs on the wall. Not over impressed, the winder is very noisy and the cheap quality hose kinks too readily which will probably end up with splits.
           
        • Kristen

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          I do!

          I have the Multi Spray Gun Pro:

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          Locking trigger - when watering lots of plants

          variable flow from the rear flow control - when watering seedlings in a tray so they aren't washed away. Also if filling a can unattended (whilst using the other can to water something else) so that it doesn't fill before I return with the empty one! (The previous one I had [non metal connectors] had a half-click locking handle that delivered a lower flow rate which I used for filling cans unattended as I could just grab the handle when I returned to get the gun to provide full power until the can was full; that was more convenient that the twiddly knob, for that purpose, but the knob is good for keeping the setting consistent.)

          Seven spray patterns :

          powerful Jet for cleaning - I use that to reach the plants at the back of he conservatory when it is stuffed in Winter and I can't get close to them

          fast fill for filling up buckets and watering cans - I do use that when filling cans in the, perhaps mistaken?!, believe that it is the least-friction and therefore the fastest-flow to fill the container as quickly as possible

          fine mist for seedlings - use that for misting cuttings

          rose for gentle watering - use that for most of the watering of areas where the pots are touching each other. Use Rose on low-power for watering seedlings.

          fan spray for rinsing soap off cars - I use this for misting larger plants, such as Tomatoes to assist
          fertilisation, and for damping down the greenhouse - the Mist setting is too fine for that job.

          cone spray for delicate watering - OK not sure what this one is and how it differs from Fan

          aerated - use for watering plants in large pots. It stops the compost splashing and I think has faster flow then the "rose", plus I can direct the flow where I want onto the compost whereas the Rose is often too "wide". "Aerated" also has a bit of "carry" so I can use it to get water to reach things that are slightly out of range.
           
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          • Fat Controller

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            That is the gun that I got as a replacement, and I am really chuffed with it - markedly better than the old plastic one.
             
          • Spruce

            Spruce Glad to be back .....

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            Missed all this but what a great thread.

            I have a garden sprinkler (Lawn Queen) which I have had early 90's and I treat it with care gets a wipe down after use and back in its original box and kept in the garage frost free, it was expensive to buy and still has the price tag on.

            Personally I think if we looked after them more ie don't leave out to all elements and especially the sun and frost and letting them fall onto paving etc they would all last alot longer.

            I am sure all of us would like to trial out your products in the future ;) if you need a honest gardeners opinion.

            Spruce
             
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            • Sheal

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              I've got that one too Kristen and it hasn't been used since my son left home two years ago!
               
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