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It's not for you, dog.

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by HBK, Nov 10, 2010.

  1. HBK

    HBK Gardener

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    I laid a raised border about a foot high all the way around my garden and my dog seems to think I did it just for him because whenever he goes outside he uses it as a walkway. He walks all the way around the full garden stepping on only the border!
    Now I haven't actually planted anything in it yet but if I do I'm concerned that any seeds or bulbs will just be 'kicked up' by him as he shuffles along.
    I've tried giving him a gentle nudge back down to the centre of the garden but he just thinks I'm playing and jumps right back up again.
    How would you stop him from doing it?

    Note: The current plan is to make the border even higher. He's only little and might not be able to get up.
    I can post a picture if necessary.
     
  2. Marley Farley

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    Hi HBK, I have had dogs all my life & also have held a dog training classfor a number of yrs... Not now but the same applies I think.... I have always trained with praise not treats & have had much better success than the treat brigade...!!!!
    You must tell him in no uncertain terms "NO" get him out of the borders the minute you see him getting in there.. It will take time & patience, but unless you are firm & never waver from your "NO" & take him straight to the area where he can roam he will never see a difference ..... Praise him like heck when he gets it right... A very firm No & taken to the area you want him in he will learn, but you will have to do this every time he goes out there & over & over for a while, but if you are firm in your No's & full of praise when he gets it right he should start to have it sussed in a few weeks & in 12 months pretty much totally.....!!!:wink: :thumb:
     
  3. Marley Farley

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  4. Chopper

    Chopper Do I really look like a people person?

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    A good slap round the ear or maybe you could always just shoot the dog!!!

    No please don't hurt the dog. I was joking. :lollol::lollol::lollol:

    To your dog, your raised bed may seem like a new playground in HIS territory. He has no idea what the intended purpose of your raised bed is, so please don't blame him.

    I would definately go with Marleys suggestion. Firm guidance and praise for when he gets the message is the way forward and the way I had a lot of success with when I kept dogs.

    Dogs are intelligent and usually willing to please. They need boundaries and the way to reinforce those boundaries is to praise them once the message gets through. Time, patience and training is the answer. Good luck.

    Chopper.
     
  5. HBK

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    I never really considered that, thanks.

    Thanks Marley, I'll begin this afternoon.
     
  6. Marley Farley

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    :gnthb: Good Luck.. It will be tuff to start with but stick with it all the time from now on.. Be firm, but patient & oodles of praise when he/she gets it right & they soon realise what is best.. :gnthb: You will get it sorted out... :yho:
     
  7. HBK

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    Not going well so far Marley. I told my dog to get down from the border after stalking him outside and he looked at me with vacant eyes so I gave him a gentle nudge in the right direction. He must have thought I was bullying him because he dropped to the floor and laid down instead. There's always tomorrow, he'll not go that far into the garden at night.
     
  8. geoffhandley

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    With my dog if she goes somewhere she is not to go I shout "No". It surprises her and she soon knows that is out of bounds. Well now I don't even have to shout, just the word works cause she is used to the system and she now responds to pointing.....and praise.
    Despite what some people think dogs like to please their owners. When they do something wrong it is usually just because they have misunderstood or people have not communicated in a way that the dog understands.
    I have got a big German Shepherd and have some very precious plants. But she knows where to put her big feet and that it is not appropriate to walk through the plants.
     
  9. Marley Farley

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    :gnthb:HBK... Don't give up yet... You will go through the submissive stage first... Just take him or her to the area you want them to be in & have a little game of some kind there......... They often think they have done a huge huge wrong... Do't worry, just take him to his new area & get him used to it... Praise for just staying there to start with & making it known it is his place...... Do not give up or go back as will get the message.... He is just a bit put out I think at this point that you are spoiling his play & day..... Keep going HBK he will get over it & stop being submissive... Just a natural reaction when all they want to do is please you....!!!! :yho:

    Geoff you are so right...!!!! They do respond to a sharp no & as long as you keep showing them where to go after you have shouted no & then so much praise people think you are nuts they will get iut right as you are quite right.... They only want to please the owners & give unconditional love back......!
     
  10. HBK

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    Thanks for the advice both of you. Actually this morning was a much better display as all I had to do was point and he leapt down from the border to walk in the middle of the garden.
     
  11. Chopper

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    I know from experience that dogs do genuinely want to please their masters. There are extremely few bad dogs, but a hell of a lot of bad owners. Most bad owners just do not know any better and sometimes get frustrated with the dog. The dog then becomes confused.

    Firm guidance and boundaries. Dogs cannot speak but they soon learn to recognise certain words. Lots of praise when they get things right. Dogs really appreciate and respond well to a firm master that rewards them with praise, affection and guidance. If your dog is doing something wrong, it is most likely you are not giving the dog instruction/guidance he can understand, so you need to think about how you communicate with him.

    Keep at it and you will soon be rewarded.

    Chopper.
     
  12. Marley Farley

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    :gnthb: Oh great news HBK... It will take a bit of time & he will have good days & bad days yet, but as long as you never waver in your instructions guidance & praise you will get there my friend.. As Chopper say... they really do want to please their master who is firm, but full of love & praise... Good Luck let us know how you go.... :gnthb::yho:
     
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