What Would You do?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by shiney, Mar 2, 2015.

  1. Val..

    Val.. Confessed snail lover

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    6,355
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Hay-on-Wye, Hereford
    Ratings:
    +4,951
    Exactly, it's the bacteria that bothers me, also SO many more people now, more foreign travel, things were so different when we were kids.
     
  2. lost_in_france

    lost_in_france Total Gardener

    Joined:
    May 28, 2013
    Messages:
    1,640
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    Vieil-Hesdin
    Ratings:
    +3,138
    followed by "and so please cover your mouth" . Yep, basic hygiene/good manners.

    And I do take your point that the larger and more diverse the community, the more we travel etc the more different viruses we are exposed to.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
    • Val..

      Val.. Confessed snail lover

      Joined:
      Aug 2, 2010
      Messages:
      6,355
      Gender:
      Female
      Occupation:
      Retired
      Location:
      Hay-on-Wye, Hereford
      Ratings:
      +4,951
      • Informative Informative x 1
      • ARMANDII

        ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

        Joined:
        Jan 12, 2019
        Messages:
        48,096
        Gender:
        Male
        Ratings:
        +100,851
        upload_2015-3-2_21-24-50.jpeg

        upload_2015-3-2_21-25-13.jpeg
         
        • Like Like x 1
        • Funny Funny x 1
        • shiney

          shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

          Joined:
          Jul 3, 2006
          Messages:
          67,286
          Gender:
          Male
          Occupation:
          Retired - Last Century!!!
          Location:
          Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
          Ratings:
          +134,160
          I quite agree that children, and ourselves, need exposure to 'germs' but there are simple matters of being careful.

          @Jenny namaste The spread of flu type bugs is quite a serious thing nowadays and, so, taking reasonable precautions, such as not shaking hands, is recommended. Howard Hughes syndrome is not really significant in this sort of situation. Shaking hands in other situations is not quite so important as you're not going to be eating immediately afterwards.

          As I said, it's also not the correct etiquette for restaurant staff to offer to shake hands anyway.

          The incidence of Norovirus on ships is considerably lower than the incidence of it in holiday hotels. There are a lot of cruise ships that have virtually no incidences because of the care that is taken.

          @pete getting a case of the trots after foreign holidays occurs very infrequently nowadays. Most cases are brought on by too much sun and too much booze. Intolerance toward food and stomach flora doesn't happen so much because we have become accustomed to a much wider range of foods and cooking methods.

          We travel all over the world and to some really out of the way places. We eat the local food, enjoy it and rarely have any problems. We still don't shake hands with people just before eating our food. A lot of the food we eat in those places is eaten by hand. When we use their utensils we make sure they're as clean as practical. We've eaten street food in India, Peru, Chile, Indonesia, Malaysia, up the Amazon (with vultures in the trees above), French Guiana, Cambodia and loads of others, and never had a problem. That doesn't stop us from being careful when we can.

          What we had for lunch in Old Delhi a couple of years ago. :blue thumb:

          P1110894.JPG

          P1140274.JPG

          Followed by some lovely fresh fruit.

          P1110870.JPG
           
          • Like Like x 2
          • Agree Agree x 1
          • Val..

            Val.. Confessed snail lover

            Joined:
            Aug 2, 2010
            Messages:
            6,355
            Gender:
            Female
            Occupation:
            Retired
            Location:
            Hay-on-Wye, Hereford
            Ratings:
            +4,951
            Flu, Gastroenteritis, Norovirus, Ebola, Aids, springs to my mind. Mind you I wouldn't shake hands with anyone who has Aids or who has had Ebola anyway unless I am wearing gloves.
             
          • longk

            longk Total Gardener

            Joined:
            Nov 24, 2011
            Messages:
            11,431
            Location:
            Oxfordshire
            Ratings:
            +23,250
            Ditto

            Don't even consider the local swimming pool!

            Absolutely. Cash, handrails, door handles, the list is endless.
             
            • Agree Agree x 1
            • pete

              pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

              Joined:
              Jan 9, 2005
              Messages:
              56,474
              Gender:
              Male
              Occupation:
              Retired
              Location:
              Mid Kent
              Ratings:
              +110,267
              I guess you dont drink the water then @shiney
               
              • Like Like x 1
              • Agree Agree x 1
              • Jenny namaste

                Jenny namaste Total Gardener

                Joined:
                Mar 11, 2012
                Messages:
                18,904
                Gender:
                Female
                Occupation:
                retired- blissfully retired......
                Location:
                Battle, East Sussex
                Ratings:
                +34,584
                having a bit of trouble with rationale here MR Shiney..:scratch:
                You ate there - not exactly squeaky clean is it!! But wouldn't shake the hand of your Maitre d.
                You cannot avoid contact with harmful bacteria 24/7. I still reckon keeping your soldiers square bashing instead of playing poker in the barracks all day is a better idea,
                Jenny
                 
                • Agree Agree x 2
                • shiney

                  shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

                  Joined:
                  Jul 3, 2006
                  Messages:
                  67,286
                  Gender:
                  Male
                  Occupation:
                  Retired - Last Century!!!
                  Location:
                  Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
                  Ratings:
                  +134,160

                  I've been travelling the world for almost 55 years. Never drunk the local water, just bottled water. :blue thumb: Ate lots of local food (wasn't too keen on grilled guinea pig in Peru!) and never had stomach problems. :) :phew:

                  No problem with the rationale. :) We only ate what we saw being cooked properly and immediately before we ate it.

                  P1140279.JPG

                  Shaking hands in a restaurant is totally unnecessary and poor restaurant etiquette on behalf of the staff. So an easily avoidable possibility is the way to go. :blue thumb:

                  The maître d's job is to greet you and not shake your hand. My butler is a very nice person but he wouldn't dream of offering his hand to guests!! :snork:
                   
                  • Like Like x 1
                  • Informative Informative x 1
                  • Jenny namaste

                    Jenny namaste Total Gardener

                    Joined:
                    Mar 11, 2012
                    Messages:
                    18,904
                    Gender:
                    Female
                    Occupation:
                    retired- blissfully retired......
                    Location:
                    Battle, East Sussex
                    Ratings:
                    +34,584
                    Our favourite Restaurant / Hotel is run totally by Italians and has been for the last 33 years. I am on very good hugging terms with the two Senior waiters and it makes my visit special,
                    Jenny
                     
                    • Like Like x 3
                    • Agree Agree x 1
                    • lost_in_france

                      lost_in_france Total Gardener

                      Joined:
                      May 28, 2013
                      Messages:
                      1,640
                      Gender:
                      Female
                      Location:
                      Vieil-Hesdin
                      Ratings:
                      +3,138
                      Is that a world wide etiquette or have you found it varies on your travels. Who actually sets the etiquette and how is everyone supposed to know what it is?
                       
                    • ARMANDII

                      ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

                      Joined:
                      Jan 12, 2019
                      Messages:
                      48,096
                      Gender:
                      Male
                      Ratings:
                      +100,851
                      [​IMG]

                      [​IMG]
                       
                      • Funny Funny x 3
                      • shiney

                        shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

                        Joined:
                        Jul 3, 2006
                        Messages:
                        67,286
                        Gender:
                        Male
                        Occupation:
                        Retired - Last Century!!!
                        Location:
                        Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
                        Ratings:
                        +134,160
                        Most countries I've been to the staff wouldn't even think of shaking your hand. With regard to the etiquette, well trained wait staff are not allowed to offer to shake hands. It's too familiar. Hugging by people you have known for many years is quite acceptable.

                        I know that the example I gave at the start of the thread appeared rather exaggerated but it actually happened. You never know what the person's hand has just been doing :heehee:

                        When I was at college and studying the Theory of Catering it was one of the standard rules that you don't offer to shake hands. If the customer offers you their hand you then take it. you should wash your hands immediately afterwards if you're also serving food.

                        I've just, quickly grabbed this off the internet

                        10. Don't touch me I know that sounds like a super rude way to start an etiquette post, but seriously, there is no need for you to touch me. I'm not one of those people who's weird about strangers touching her, but I'd rather you didn't place your hand on my back to guide me to my seat or pat my napkin in my lap. If you want to shake hands as I'm leaving, that's fine. But any other touching is unnecessary and, frankly, kind of weird.
                         
                        • Informative Informative x 2
                        • ARMANDII

                          ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

                          Joined:
                          Jan 12, 2019
                          Messages:
                          48,096
                          Gender:
                          Male
                          Ratings:
                          +100,851
                          [​IMG]
                           
                          • Funny Funny x 3
                          Gardeners Corner is dependent on Donation to keep running, if you enjoy using Gardeners Corner, please consider donating to help us with our operating costs.

                          Share This Page

                          1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                            By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                            Dismiss Notice