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Don't agree with this at all

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by clanless, Jul 28, 2015.

  1. rosebay

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    Indeed. The link I gave shows where this is not the case, i.e. reasons when the will can be contested.
     
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    I was thinking of making a will, trying to decide who to leave my millions to.

    Seems I dont need to bother now, could put a lot of solicitors out of work.

    Think I'll just jot a few things down on the back of a cigarette packet.
     
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      I can understand the opinion that a will should be upheld. However where did the money come from in the first instance? If it is family wealth from the deceased fathers line, the likelihood is he would have wished for his offspring to inherit. Therefore should the mum have the right to prevent the child inheriting family wealth. If the money was generated entirely by the mother I feel she had a right to leave it to whoever she pleases.
      I also believe that many folk do not donate regularly to a charity. Many of the folk I know prefer to ensure they have enough to provide for themselves in their lifetime (provision of care if needed etc). They plan to donate what is left over to charity, so having to prove a link to a charity is not really a fair representation of reflecting a persons last wishes.
      Sorry not really familiar with the details of the case, or anything to do with inheritance law, just my random thoughts!
       
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          Does that mean if she had been left something there would be nothing the judge could do?

          I'll make sure to leave all my extended relatives £1 hidden in a box of animal dung.
           
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            OK, I'm probably of a different view to everybody else but I've never worried about that sort of thing before.

            Children/relatives have a right to inherit.

            The Mother appears to have been still consumed with spite some 40 years after she wanted veto her daughter's choice of partner.

            I can't comprehend [1] why the charities named in the last will didn't accept they'd done rather well out of their bequests and that, after the initial judgement, only £50,000 of the £460, 000 would go to the daughter, but no, they chose to keep on challenging, got less money and presumably had loads of extra legal costs

            [1] Although they probably, as a charity, had some self defeating duty to do so.
             
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            • rosebay

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              Well I guess the word 'totally' is superfluous when saying she was cut out of the will.
               
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              Some good comments above :blue thumb:

              Of course, there's another way that your will may not give all your money in the way you wish - the money grabbing tax man!

              I knew someone who worked very hard all his life, had eight children, and managed (with very hard work) to eventually move upwards in terms of housing. He supported the kids all the time and left all he had to the in equal amounts. There wasn't much in his estate as he had always needed to increase the size of house to account for the increasing size of family. The tax man got more money in inheritance tax than each of the children :th scifD36: :mute:
               
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                My only solution is to give the money / estate to everyone before I die and leave a snottogram as my final bequeath
                 
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                  Good idea, but they've got that covered as well. You're only allowed to give a certain amount away, even to family, each year without it being taxed on the spot. :hate-shocked: Then you have to survive seven years for it not to be included, retrospectively, in your estate.

                  There are legal ways around it but they are gradually closing those loopholes! The simplest one that they used to have was to set up a special trust fund. You can't use the money when you've done that but you can 'borrow' 5% each year. When you die the trust fund reclaims what you owe and it's not counted in your estate.

                  No, I haven't done anything like this myself!! :old: :snork:. I've buried all my money in the veg plot :loll:
                   
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                    Ah but wouldn't that just involve lawyers arguing for years and finally a Judge deciding that the snottogram was meant for someone else, by which time your estate was bled dry :redface:
                     
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                    No wonder your runner beans look so good :)
                     
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                      Hi Scrungee,

                      " Children/relatives have a right to inherit "...... I don't think so.

                      Whatever I've got left when I go will go to who I say so ( hopefully ). I wouldn't want a single penny to go to my sister or any of her thieving lazy family. No- one can/ will ever tell me she's got a RIGHT to anything of mine.

                      Oh, and by the way my mum feels the same way.
                       
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                      Whoops!!! I meant to mention that only in the winter :doh:

                      That sounds like good justification for putting in your will. Maybe you could even word it a bit stronger :heehee:
                       
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                      • rosebay

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                        Sadly, it is very common for families to fall out because of wills.

                        It has happened to my family....my brother and sister have fallen out big time over mum's will and....she is not even dead yet! [​IMG] [​IMG]
                         
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