Brown blackberry leaves?

hi
I ordered some blackberry plants from Thompson-Morgan, is it normal for the leaves to look like this please?

 

Looks like leaf miners

 

I'm guessing this isn't a good thing to have on a new plant?

 

Septoria leaf spot?

 

Think Scrunge is more right

 

Shop said it was frost? Anyway they're sending more...

 

@Lottie222 Are they charging you for sending more plants out, or are they freebies?

 

Freebies yeah. Was weird as I fb them and since they were so slow I rang. Woman on phone said she would send a replacement, fb people came back and said they'd checked and it was frost - I said new ones were coming and she said that's fine but please don't throw away these as they'll be fine... Not sure what to think so I've donated them to a friend LOL

 

This is what frost damaged blackberry leaves look like, a dark barring rather than blotchy:

 

The replacements looked the same - shop this time adamant it's frost. Planted them up, the old leaves dropped off and the new ones I think look fine so fingers crossed (a friend suggested maybe they had been burnt with water in the sun)

 

Your blackberries are diseased Lottie. I would refuse them if I were you - get a refund. As far as I`m concerned that is another black cross for Thompson Morgan. I have far better wild blackberries here.

 

:( Shall I post a pic of how they look now?

 

Think I would look around some local garden centers and see if you can still find some healthy looking plants as backup to the one you have.

Would also be careful about ordering online from a different company as often they outsource such plants to sub growers and that grower might supply several big names.

Blackberries take a couple of years to really establish but do go on for many years so getting a good healthy plant to start with is best, even if you loose a few months to start with.

Had mine for so long have forgotten is name, though feel sure its Merton Thornless, beautiful fruits every year, eaten fresh or frozen or in a crumble with some yogurt or cream - just too yummy !

Although it produces long canes I just train them in an oval shape up against a wall so they remain compact and they then send out loads of fruiting shoots that can be easily picked.

 

Yes please - let`s have a look

 

They're a bit greener looking IRL (sun was on when taking pic). I started spraying them a few times a day with a seaweed spray and that's when the old ones went and these grew. One damaged original remaining (to left of pic)