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Discussion in 'Identification Area' started by Christina Atola, Oct 7, 2019.

  1. Christina Atola

    Christina Atola Apprentice Gardener

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    This isn't actually my question - it's my mum's - and so I'm afraid I don't have a picture, but maybe the description will be enough?

    Mum would like to know which tree or trees might have smooth golden bark, like the white part of birch bark but golden (sorta between gold and copper in colour) and shiny? According to her it was deciduous, but she can't remember what sort of shape the foliage formed. She saw them in the street in Helsinki, but found absolutely nothing in terms of tree-guides or other information when she Googled it.

    Thank you so much in advance!
     
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    This is the Himalayan Birch which is one of my favourite trees because of the shiney smooth, silky to the touch bark.


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    And this is the Prunus Maacki Amber Beauty.

    I have a feeling your Mum will go for the first pic........and my regards to your Mum:love30:
     
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    Actually, Mum pegged it as the cherry. Thank you, Armandii!
     
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      Err......Excuse me but first pic is NOT Himalayan birch...it is Tibetan cherry...Prunus serrula!
      The bark of which is a glorious rich dark brown...with prominent white markings called lenticels.

      Prunus serrula, - Google Search
       
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          see above also.
          Christina as you live in Finland do please try to take a pic of the trees..to show the whole tree and the bark, leaves too even if on the ground.

          Have you tried looking on Google street view to see what trees were growing in the street where your Mum saw them?
           
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            A deciduous tree,native to western China,cultivated in gardens for it's attractive bark. Height to about 50ft,usually much smaller. Flowers are about 1.6cm acfoss and open in April in clusters of 2-3. Fruits are red,oval,about 1.2cm long.Leaves are narrow and fine toothed. Bark is shining red-brown and peels in thin strips. [Rger Phillips. Trees of Britain and Norther Europe]
             
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              Thank you, Silver Surfer, I couldn't find a images of a Tibetan Cherry in any of my tree books and the closest I could find was an image, online, entitled Himalayan Birch
              upload_2019-10-7_14-24-15.jpeg

              of which the Birch is a member of the Prunus family. I think the problem is that nearly all plants seem to have more than one name applied to them so it can be a case of either/either when it comes to which name is more definitive:dunno:, but I bow to your knowledge.:love30:
               
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              I've always loved running my hands over it, Mike, as it's really silky smooth and I love the colour.:wub2:
               
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                There are several trees with red/copper coloured bark, each of which tends to strip/peeleasily at times exposing yet another attractive bark.

                As a point of interest. Prunus and Pyrus. Cherry and Pear are both or the family. Rosaceae. Prunus meaning, stone fruit. Pyrus meaning. Pipped fruit.
                Birch, belong to the Betulaceae family.
                 
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                  I have Prunus Kojo No Mai, Mike, which doesn't have any "remarkable" bark but the flower display makes up for it during the Spring.:love30:

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                    Too true. :dbgrtmb: Our Kojo in mid-March
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                      Sorry wrote this before I saw Mike Allens post.

                      Err...sorry to be fussy ARMANDII .......but Birch is Betula sp and not related to Prunus.
                      Nor are the common names of Tibetan cherry and Himalayan birch in any way interchangeable.

                      The other problem is picking a pic from internet .....when masses of images are incorrectly named.
                      BETULA.
                      Scientific classification [​IMG]
                      Kingdom: Plantae
                      Clade: Angiosperms
                      Clade: Eudicots
                      Clade: Rosids
                      Order: Fagales
                      Family: Betulaceae
                      Subfamily: Betuloideae
                      Genus: Betula
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                      PRUNUS sp
                      Scientific classification [​IMG]
                      Kingdom: Plantae
                      Clade: Angiosperms
                      Clade: Eudicots
                      Clade: Rosids
                      Order: Rosales
                      Family: Rosaceae
                      Subfamily: Amygdaloideae
                      Tribe: Amygdaleae
                      Genus: Prunus
                      ..............................................................................................................................
                       
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                        Would I be right in thinking Birch is more likely in Helsinki rather than Prunus:scratch::smile:
                         
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