Evergreen Clematis

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  1. Freddy

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    Hello chums:)

    Just looking at these. I wouldn’t mind one of these climbing up one the uprights on the pergola. Thing is, I’ve noticed that a lot of them are quoted “May need winter protection”? Are we talking mulch or something more drastic?

    Cheers...Freddy
     
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    @Freddy l have been looking at Chirrosa Freckles, I've liked it for a long time, I actually bought one about five years ago from ebay but it turned out to be a totally different clematis:mad:
     

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      Nothing doing?
       
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        The evergreens tend to be winter/early spring flowering, is that what you are looking for Freddy?
         
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        Yes. It’s to go against one of the other uprights.
         
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        I use the Armandii varieties, Freddy, for growing through my Acer Brilliantissimum and it flowers around 9 months of the year, it's flowering now, with a lovely heavy scent. I haven't used an evergreen clematis on my Arbour but have around 4 Clematis, 3 roses and about six Honeysuckle on both sides.
         
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          The early flowerers tend to be pale pinks, blues and whites.
           
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            I grow armandii Snowdrift Freddie :)

            One word of warning.....it is extremely vigorous. Here it has covered a 10' plus wide wall in 2 years and then some. The wall is 8' high and it has sailed well over it. Flowers when it feels like it but most profusely in March.

            Difficult for me to say how hardy it is....most everything survives down here over winter. It was bought to clothe a bare wall quickly and this it has done.

            I prune it after its main flowering to control its size. It is on a warm wall receiving early morning to mid afternoon sun.

            If the pergola is strong and durable Armandii is a good choice; otherwise on a less than sturdy host, an average fence for example, I think it could cause problems in a few years

            However, check out Cirrhosa Advent Bells Freddie......evergreen, flowers all winter and vigorous. I planted it in a friend's garden a couple of years back and it is glorious; scented, floriferous and delightful. :)
             
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              My varieties of Armandii have been with me for at least 10 years and have survived through the different kinds of Winters that we have had, including the "Beast from the East" prolonged period of cold.

              That's true, but not more than the Montana variety and, in fact, are probably easier to prune back due to the fact that the leaves stand out. Once you've got the Armandii to the size you want it's a 2 minute job every year just to keep it in check and tidy it up.......as you would with any plant.
              In fact, today, I've just pruned in less than a minute my Armandii that entwining itself through the Acer and hanging down like Jungle vines.:coffee::snorky:
               
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                Thanks for the replies, appreciated. Armandii ‘Snowdrift’ seems to fit the bill. As everything else on the pergola will be deciduous, I was wanting something evergreen, just to add interest/shape.
                @Verdun , the Clematis will be growing up a 4” post, so should be well up to the task.

                As a slight aside, will I need to add extra supports to add a bit of width to the plant? Or will a single post suffice?
                 
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                Extra supports for me Freddie. Armandii has much heavier foliage, at least it does here, than any Montana. Agree about the pruning though.....easier to cut back to individual leaves. Besides it would look better with a "bit of width" I think. :)
                 
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                  A bit late now, to add extra 4” uprights, so it will have to be something else. Maybe substantial tensioned wires?
                   
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                  A framework of some kind, Freddy, is best for any climbers rather than a single post including Roses, Clematis and Honeysuckle . Perhaps a mixture of plants, climbing some sort of framework, maybe good quality Trellis?, which will give the plants and area some height and area to grow would be suitable. I don't think you would need to add four uprights to sort it out but be fair to the plants by giving them some area, rather than a single post with a plant growing up which will always look just like a plant growing up a post:dunno::heehee: But it's your garden and your personal taste so go with your heart.:love30::wub2::heehee:
                   
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                    I suppose a trellis is doable, just don’t want to spoil the look/effect. I’ll try to take a piccy tomorrow of the unfinished pergola, to give the idea :thumbsup:
                     
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                      Well, don't think of now, Freddy:nonofinger:, think of a year of two in the future, where the plants will have grown up and hidden the Trellis.:yes::hapydancsmil::hapfeet::snorky:
                       
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