1. IMPORTANT - NEW & EXISTING MEMBERS

    E-MAIL SERVER ISSUES

    We are currently experiencing issues with our outgoing email server, therefore EXISTING members will not be getting any alert emails, and NEW/PROSPECTIVE members will not receive the email they need to confirm their account. This matter has been escalated, however the technician responsible is currently on annual leave.For assistance, in the first instance, please PM any/all of the admin team (if you can), alternatively please send an email to:

    [email protected]

    We will endeavour to help as quickly as we can.
    Dismiss Notice

Hardiest Evergreen Ceanothus suggestions please.

Discussion in 'Other Plants' started by silu, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. silu

    silu gardening easy...hmmm

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2010
    Messages:
    3,682
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    Igloo
    Ratings:
    +8,083
    I'm in the process of totally redoing a shrub bed (South facing BUT I live in Scotland!). This bed did have an evergreen small leafed Ceanothus in it. It was enormous and looked more like a tree with trunk girth of at least 2 ft! It was on it's last legs when we moved here and no point in trying to rejuvenate as Ceanothus I know do not respond well to hard pruning. I have grown Ceanothus up a wall before with reasonable success for a time anyway but would like to get another for the bed I'm redoing. Knowing Ceanothus to be notoriously on the tender side anybody got suggestions as to the best variety to go for. I don't want the low growing 1 which is meant to be pretty hardy. If only I'd known what variety the old 1 was, it must have been here and happy for many years. All I know was the leaves were small very dark shiny green and the flowers were quite dark blue in comparison to other Ceanothus I've seen.Any suggestions would be welcome as I'm very fond of this shrub. Thanks.
     
  2. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    48,235
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Mid Kent
    Ratings:
    +85,995
    Not sure on hardiness but the description could be "concha", its the one I have, very dark blue flowers and gets tall fairly quickly.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Useful Useful x 1
    • Verdun

      Verdun Passionate gardener

      Joined:
      Oct 16, 2012
      Messages:
      7,475
      Gender:
      Male
      Location:
      West Cornwall
      Ratings:
      +17,487
      I think Concha is the best. Rich blue flowers, smallish....so less tender....leaves and nice compact upright habit. I like ceanothus....they grow like weeds down here in cornwall but they are short lived. Don't like the variegated ones....the blue flowers are not so true blue....but have grown a number of different varieties.
       
      • Useful Useful x 1
      • silu

        silu gardening easy...hmmm

        Joined:
        Oct 20, 2010
        Messages:
        3,682
        Gender:
        Female
        Location:
        Igloo
        Ratings:
        +8,083
        Just Googled Concha and from the photos that does look like the variety I had. Thanks both, now off to find where I can source 1 thanks very much pete and Verun.
         
      • Verdun

        Verdun Passionate gardener

        Joined:
        Oct 16, 2012
        Messages:
        7,475
        Gender:
        Male
        Location:
        West Cornwall
        Ratings:
        +17,487
        I find Stephen smiths garden centres.....online....a good source of Shrubs like ceanothus. They deliver good size, quality plants. Concha is not rare but garden centres often have shrubs like this in late in the season whereas on-line you can have yours planted and growing well by then
         
      • silu

        silu gardening easy...hmmm

        Joined:
        Oct 20, 2010
        Messages:
        3,682
        Gender:
        Female
        Location:
        Igloo
        Ratings:
        +8,083
        Oh great Verdun, always good to get recommendations.Hope they deliver to Scotland without breaking the bank! On line shopping can be somewhat hit or miss I've found but usually the only way to get anything out of the ordinary. When I lived in the Clyde Valley near Lanark we had loads of garden centres (supermarkets!) all selling pretty much the same thing. We'd regularly see huge lorries from Holland dropping of supplies to all of them. The owners/staff were mostly clueless too.
         
      • stephenprudence

        stephenprudence GC Weather Guru

        Joined:
        Jul 17, 2010
        Messages:
        1,719
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        General Asisstant (for now), and full time immatur
        Location:
        Wirral, Zone 9a
        Ratings:
        +2,368
        The most common Ceanothus around here is Ceanothus arboreus, which have large leaves and grow into a tree. I'm not sure how it would fare in Scotland though
         
      • Verdun

        Verdun Passionate gardener

        Joined:
        Oct 16, 2012
        Messages:
        7,475
        Gender:
        Male
        Location:
        West Cornwall
        Ratings:
        +17,487
        Stephen, that's not the hardiest ceanothus though. Silu, had a new hellebore delivered today totally intact, perfectly packed and full of flowers and buds. Many on line suppliers are producing and delivering to a very high standard now. It's just a question of being able to distinguish between the good and the bad
         
      • pete

        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

        Joined:
        Jan 9, 2005
        Messages:
        48,235
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        Retired
        Location:
        Mid Kent
        Ratings:
        +85,995
        If you are just buying one plant I rarely find buying online worth the hassle, usually the delivery well outstrips any saving you might make.
        Lets face it, its a very common plant.
        In a couple of months or so the gardencentres will be full of all varieties of Ceonothus just coming into flower.
        I know that's when they cost the most, but you could see what you are buying.

        I cant see you gaining much by planting now, root growth wont actually start till things warm up.:)
         
      • Verdun

        Verdun Passionate gardener

        Joined:
        Oct 16, 2012
        Messages:
        7,475
        Gender:
        Male
        Location:
        West Cornwall
        Ratings:
        +17,487
        Ok, just check out the costs for yourself silu. I buy one at a time so think it worth it. Check your GC and whether they have plant you want...check it's size and cost. See what online provides and choose. Get best deal you can whichever way you choose. We agree though that concha is what you're after
         
        • Like Like x 1
        • silu

          silu gardening easy...hmmm

          Joined:
          Oct 20, 2010
          Messages:
          3,682
          Gender:
          Female
          Location:
          Igloo
          Ratings:
          +8,083
          Thanks Verdun and Pete. I have been gardening for a very long time and usually manage to find good deals wherever I buy. If I do decide to buy from south of here as I have many times in the past, plants never get planted out straight away as at this time of the year south of the border is a fair bit ahead of us and often plants have been forced under cover and certainly wouldn't appreciate being subjected to the temperatures we've had over the last couple of days brrrrrrrrrr:). Tried Stephen Smith and out of stock of Concha...typical!
           
        • Verdun

          Verdun Passionate gardener

          Joined:
          Oct 16, 2012
          Messages:
          7,475
          Gender:
          Male
          Location:
          West Cornwall
          Ratings:
          +17,487
          Silu at least you know what you want and where to put it.
           
        • Kristen

          Kristen Under gardener

          Joined:
          Jul 22, 2006
          Messages:
          17,534
          Gender:
          Male
          Location:
          Suffolk, UK
          Ratings:
          +12,667
          Dunno if it would be tall enough, but I have a Ceanothus Victoria. Its in a fairly open spot (not against hedge or wall) and has been unphased by the last few Winters where we have had nights of -10C - -16C :(

          Just looked on BBC site and it says 120CM tall. Mine's been in since March 2008 and ain't that tall ... yet!

          IMG_2621_CeanothusVictoria.jpg
          Ceanothus Victoria - June 2012 - Planted March 2008
           
        Loading...

        Share This Page

        1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
          By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
          Dismiss Notice