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I.D Please anybody?

Discussion in 'Identification Area' started by HYDROGEN86, Aug 15, 2011.

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    The first looks like Evening Primrose, not sure of the second though.:thumbsup:
     
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      Thanks daith I think your right. I googled it says it
      Is from America though so don't think I will try to get
      Any seeds from it.
       
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      It grows fine in Britain so go for it. What do you have to lose? It hasn`t cost you anything.
       
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      I'm only interested in native plants at the moment :)
      That was introduced it says...still not sure about the other
      Though...
       
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      The second plant could possible be either Stachys Palustris [Marsh Woundwort], or Stychis Sylvatica [Wood Woundwort]. I think we have had to identify this one before, but I sure Marley and Ziggy could tell me if I'm right or wrong.:scratch::D
       
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        Thanks Armand that looks like the one. Think its the
        Woodland woundwort.
         
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        Just a thought, I grow Evening Primose in my borders as it's a nice cottage style plant with a lovely scent in my opinion. It self seeds quite well so it is a plant worth having.:D
         
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          Yes, I agree with the ID's :dbgrtmb:

          I'm not sure about you idea of 'native' plants. It depends on how far back you want to go as a very large proportion of the the plants we see have come in from other countries over the centuries. Evening Primrose has been in this country for about 400 years and because it doesn't need any special cultivation conditions has become naturalised here.

          As it has been here so long and is grown and liked by so many people I now look upon it as a native plant. I would be quite sad if it didn't pop up in a number of places in our garden each year as it is a very rewarding plant.

          It prefers to grow in fairly harsh conditions (although it will grow anywhere) and enjoys being in dry rocky soil. New flowers are produced every day and its flowering season last for months.
           
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            It is really nice and that hence why I wanted to know what it is.
            Although 400 years is not really a long time. It still came over on
            A bout. It does not look English either...thanks for all your info :)
             
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            Hydrogen, what do YOU class as a native plant?:thumbsup:
             
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            I would class a native plant as something that would be here even if
            Humans were not.
             
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            Homo Sapiens have occupied this land for in excess of 10,000 years, so I think you are looking for the impossible.:thumbsup:
             
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              Good question, Dai. I think you'd be left with Horsetail [Equistetum arvense], Hydrogen, as that is a surviving pre-historic plant.:D:heehee::what::heehee:
               
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              I don't want the oldest plants in the world. Just ones that have not been brought over by oceans by man. Just because humans have been ignorantly interfering with nature for how ever long does not mean we should carry on.
               
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