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I've Bean Meaning To Start This Year's Thread

Discussion in 'Edible Gardening' started by shiney, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. shiney

    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

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    It's a bit late this year but the beans are coming on now :dbgrtmb:

    I've tried changing the way I grow them just a little bit. For some years I've been growing them like this
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    They've been in rows with the canes crossed over at a height of 2.5ft - 3ft. This allowed the tops of the canes more flexibility than when I had them cross at the top - as we get some strong winds blowing across the fields at the back. It also allows more air through the beans and lets the beans that grow on the upper part of the canes to dangle down on the outside so I don't have to go searching for them on the inside.

    This has worked well for years but in the last couple of years the winds have been getting exceptionally strong (climate change? :scratch:) and some of the canes have flexed too much and broken.

    As I didn't want to change the method of growing I decided to add some supports. I planned to buy some 8ft posts and put them at each end of the rows. I could then run a wire between the posts and tie each cane, loosely, to the wires.

    That got me thinking about another problem I get with them. No matter how often I nip out the runners they still continue to grow so, eventually, they get beans growing out from the tops and drooping down. This means that I have to bend beneath them to pick some of the beans. As I have a bad back this can be a problem. So I came up with a further idea :ideaIPB:.

    I decided to put in extra posts outside of the canes so that I could then train the beans that grow past the tops of the canes on a 'cat's cradle' style framework.
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    There's a taught wire between the posts and I simply wound string around the top of a cane and then ran it to the wire and on to the next cane etc. There is not only the framework between the rows but also on the outside of the end rows.
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    Now that the plants are growing quickly I have each plant growing up to 20ft long and they're throwing up loads of flowering stems and have grown nicely over the top of the framework - with me spending about 10 minutes each day winding the runners in to the framework.
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    Now it just needs me to find out whether the plants can support such a profusion of flower and fruit without giving up!
     
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    • Penny in Ontario

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      Well done Shiney.....everything looks great.

      I love beans too, and try and freeze as much as i can, what kinds do you grow?
       
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      I'm toying with the idea of growing them next year along an arched "avenue".
      I've done the traditional elongated wigwam this year, cos it works and other plot holders up the allotment haven't a clue, so I've pointed them in the right direction.

      Looking good though shiney and food for thought :ThankYou:
       
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      • Phil A

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        Puts my one remaining bean plant to shame. Well done to get thru all the weather with so many Shiney. That Shineyland shield has done the trick.
         
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        • shiney

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          Nowadays I stick to just growing Polestar (except when I'm doing trials on new varieties) but I used to grow quite a few different varieties

          (EDIT 2023: Polestar are now no longer doing quite as well because of 'climate change' and I'm finding White Lady and Firestorm are taking the weather better. Firestorm are crossed with a French bean and tend to get going earlier and are smoother but slightly smaller and White Lady give long runners).

          I did a thread a few years ago on here when I had about six varieties and showed the difference between them. In general, all varieties are good. I only used stringless varieties, which makes it so much easier for preparing, and some are better than others depending on the weather.

          Some were better if we had a wet season, others if it was hot and dry. Polestar are a good all rounder and are the most popular with the people that buy the beans from me (I sell them for charity). This year the slugs got about 30 of my plants because of the wet weather. Fortunately I account for this by growing extras in the greenhouse and just replace them.
           
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            It should work quite well along the arched avenue as long as you can get to the runners that grow straight up from the top of the arch - and nip them out.

            JWK (GC member) built his own framework and grew them successfully and I think Kristen did as well.
             
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            Fortunately the sun is out and I can repower the shield now as I was running out of dilithium crystals! :dbgrtmb:
             
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              Looking forward to my Sunday dinner as I will have enough for 1meal,:biggrin: I grow mine against a fence (nowhere else suitable) the left hand group doing well as is the right, BIG bare patch in the middle:huh: ,sowed direct in pots to fill space but still those evil slimy objects get at them,,slug pellets and beer traps there,:dunno:
               
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                Impressive set up there Shiney :dbgrtmb: My French beans have just started to show , they look like little green worms about 20mm long.
                 
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                Just call me Ziggy one Bean from now on :sad:

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                  awww Zigs! Your weeds ain't doing as well as mine though :cry3:
                   
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                    Rather a lonely site/sight Zig :redface: I'll send you my first French bean down when they mature , he is called Eric :snork:
                     
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                      Zigs, Gazania has a thread running in plant ID to discover what some seed pods are. The tall plants in your wall look similar, so perhaps you can help out please. :)
                       
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                        That's the variety I've been growing for 10 or 15 years or so, saving seeds every year.
                         
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                        I remember you showing me the Bean area in your garden on the Open Day, Shiney, and the new method you had of supporting the plants. Glad to it has worked with such great success.:thumbsup::snork:
                         
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