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Jeremy Forrest

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Phil A, Jun 23, 2013.

  1. Phil A

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    Ok, this one will throw up a lot of controversy and i'll probably have to pull my own thread:doh:

    But has anyone else noticed a complete miscarriage of justice here?

    Yes, he did wrong by having a sexual relationship with an underage girl.

    Yes, he did wrong by running away with her.

    Yes, he did wrong by betraying the position of trust as a Teacher.

    No, I don't see him as a paedophile that is preying on or grooming little girls.

    I see him as a Man that has fallen in love.

    The Girl says she loves him and wants to get married to him.

    The Girls Father wants to shake his hand and thank him for looking after his Daughter and will be happy to lead his Daughter down the Isle to marry the bloke:doh:

    Now he should have quit his job and waited till she was of age, but love does incredibly strange things to you, its out of control most of the time.

    I think he should have been let off with a slap for being so foolish, not given five and a half years in prison where the other inmates will do their best to pour boiling water and sugar on him.
     
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      I agree with you, and to make matters worse,Stuart Hall got 16 months for having non consensual sexual activity with girls as young as 9! the sentences should swapped around, Jeremy still has to have some sort of punishment for, betraying the trust he had put in him as a teacher. Stuart Hall should die in prison.
       
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        I think its a shame. I don't think he deserved to go to jail. I wonder if the lass would have ran away on her own if the teacher had refused to go with her.

        He should have known better though, and she deserves a smacked behind for destroying a man's life. At 15, unless she has significant a learning disability, she will have known exactly what she was doing and exactly what the consequences would be.
         
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          I have got to agree with you Zigs, and my feelings on this one haven't changed since the discussions were had back when it all happened.

          I can't help but think that he has been made an example of, and probably mostly due to the furore that was going on about Jimmy Saville and Co.

          Another thing - Stuart Hall admitted raping numerous young girls over the years, and he gets five months; Jeremy Forrest gets five and a half years! Inconsistent or what?
           
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            Apparently she has been granted permission to visit him in jail, and I have a feeling she will too. There is a part of me hopes that they do get together once he is out of jail, and that they have a long and happy relationship - hell, it would even be nice if they got a few quid for releasing a book or something for the real story.
             
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              My point precisely, Stuart Hall gets almost away with real predatory behaviour, yet Jeremy is made an example of, there is no threat to society here, yet everyone is too scared to speak out for him for fear of being tarred with the same brush.

              The bloke should not be in jail full stop.

              I don't want to pay tax to keep him there.

              What would you do if your Girlfriend said she would kill herself if you ended the relationship?
               
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                Tell all her closest friends and family to watch her like a hawk, and then do whatever was right for me anyway.
                 
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                  I had a colleague (dead now, sadly) who met his wife whilst he was driving a bus; she was going to school.

                  Nothing inappropriate happened, but once she left school they began seeing each other and eventually got married and later on had a son. I can't remember the exact age gap, but it was somewhere in the region of 20+ years.

                  He told me once that he got a fair bit of stick from all sorts of people, including his own family - but never from hers. He was a good man, doted on her and looked after her as though she was a princess, and that coupled with the fact she was clearly happy was enough for her parents. As the years passed, the hatred subsided, and they became 'just another couple' except he was a bit older than she was.

                  A lot of it has to do with the maturity of the individuals too; for example, last weekend at the Rhianna concert, we had two distressed 16-year old girls trying to find their way home; now these girls were 'young' 16-year olds if you know what I mean? Obviously, we made sure that these girls went with the security team to make sure they got on the right coach home, however we all commented that we wouldn't have let them travel alone to a concert if they were our daughters.

                  As a contrast, there were another two 16-year olds that sought our help to seek a lost bag (including rail ticket etc); I let one of them use my phone to call home so that mum & dad knew what had happened, and that we were making suitable travel arrangements should the rail ticket not turn up. Now, these young ladies were far more mature than their years; done up to the nines, and truth be told very attractive indeed. Before we'd been told they were only 16, if you had asked me to guess their age, I would have started at 21 and worked up from there.

                  And therein lies one of the flaws of this hard and fast rule - - some people are more mature than others at the same age.
                   
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                    I agree that the difference in punishment is grossly disproportionate. A predatory sex offender should never see the light of day again. So yes, the sentences, in an ideal world, should be swapped over between the two.

                    But Forrest abused his position of trust, which is unforgivable. BUT when you see a lot of 15 year old girls these days (gosh I sound old!!) they don't look 15, they look 18+. And it's scary. I can understand how a lot of guys fall foul of underage offences, likely not knowing the girls are underage. Girls want to grow up so quickly, there's not much innocence anymore :(

                    Forrest should have known better. No doubt about that. When he's out of prison (which'll likely be after half his sentence), when all the dust has settled, we'll see if the girl has changed her feelings, he his, and if they do end up living happily ever after.

                    It's worth noting that in some other European countries (Italy??) the age of consent is 14... No childhood anymore :(
                     
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                    I seem to remember this man is married with children, so he's committed adultery as well.
                     
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                    The sentence appears a bit severe compared to Stuart Hall and nine year olds
                    Yet he was a teacher with responsabilites, knowing what was right and wrong, and according to the press on Sunday has groomed before but not gone the full way, as in it did not end in intercourse
                    I think the right question is Why did Stuart Hall NOT get what HE deserves and serves alongside this Jeremey
                    Girls at her age may think they know what they are doing THEY DO NOT

                    As it stands this is a young girl, who instead of going out with friends, and having a great time is going to waste three years of her teenage life waiting for a predator, Just like his new wife has done, He gets out and they marry and less than a year down the line he has a new 15 year old
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                    I'd forgotten that as well! His poor wife & kids are victims in this as well, but they've been glossed over :(
                     
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                    Hopefully time will tell and when he gets out, she would have found herself a nice boy her own age, after doing all the things she should have been doing with her friends. The best thing for her would be to get her gcse's and a'levels out the way and be off to uni before he gets out. Preferably a university furthest away from the prison he'll be in ;)
                     
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                    There does seem to be some strange justice of late,in the other news the guy who stopped the boat race last year is booted out of the country even though his wife and child are british but the cleric who spreads hate is still here.
                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23025311
                     
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                      I agree that the sentence is far too severe!!

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