1. IMPORTANT - NEW & EXISTING MEMBERS

    E-MAIL SERVER ISSUES

    We are currently experiencing issues with our outgoing email server, therefore EXISTING members will not be getting any alert emails, and NEW/PROSPECTIVE members will not receive the email they need to confirm their account. This matter has been escalated, however the technician responsible is currently on annual leave.For assistance, in the first instance, please PM any/all of the admin team (if you can), alternatively please send an email to:

    [email protected]

    We will endeavour to help as quickly as we can.
    Dismiss Notice

'Overwintering' petrol lawnmowers

Discussion in 'Tools And Equipment' started by *dim*, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. *dim*

    *dim* Head Gardener

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2011
    Messages:
    3,548
    Location:
    Cambridge
    Ratings:
    +1,593
    after the last cut of the year, it's wise to drain all the petrol and oil from the mower (drain as much as you can, then start the mower and let it use the remaining petrol in the carb

    thats what I have read, and it is recomended as good practise ....

    never used to do that, but will do so with my mowers later this afternoon
     
  2. shiney

    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2006
    Messages:
    61,368
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired - Last Century!!!
    Location:
    Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
    Ratings:
    +118,494
    Interesting! :scratch:

    Years ago I didn't drain the mower but used to put it in the shed with an old carpet over it. Never had any trouble restarting at the begining of the season.

    In the last ten years (or more) the mower has been in use all year round. I'm normally still cutting our grass until early december (occasionally mid-Dec) and it has needed another cut in mid-Jan. In between I use it for clearing, and chopping, leaves.
     
  3. *dim*

    *dim* Head Gardener

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2011
    Messages:
    3,548
    Location:
    Cambridge
    Ratings:
    +1,593
    I have a few mowers, and will keep 1 of the older ones in case I need to use it over the next few weeks

    from what I have read, the fuel goes 'moggy' and messes up the carb ....

    I will drain the mowers of oil/petrol and in the new year will buy new spark plugs, oil, air filters and possibly new blades .... will give them a good oiling/greasing etc aswell ...

    I don't think they need any further servicing as all are running fine and had a new diaphram fitted onto one that was smoking a bit
     
  4. shiney

    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2006
    Messages:
    61,368
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired - Last Century!!!
    Location:
    Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
    Ratings:
    +118,494
    As I'm absolutely useless at DIY I don't ever attempt to service the mower and get it done either once every one or two years at a local place. They've been able to keep my mower runner very well for over 15 years and, for me, it is worth the £80 it costs for labour, parts/oil, VAT and pick up and return within 3 days.

    The mower (a Hayter 56) gets a lot of use - upwards of 3-4 hours per week and is the most important of my gardening tools. :dbgrtmb:
     
  5. *dim*

    *dim* Head Gardener

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2011
    Messages:
    3,548
    Location:
    Cambridge
    Ratings:
    +1,593
    very good mower .... but for a basic service such as oil, airfilter and sparkplug, it will cost you a tenner and is dead easy to do .... if you use the mower 4hrs a week, it may be worth your while changing (or washing) the airfilter every few months and adding a new sparkplug and fresh oil

    I think the £80 that you pay could be a full service which includes cleaning the carb etc ... some places charge up to £150 depending on the mower (especially if it is self driven)

    I recently had a mower serviced as it needed a new diaphragm (was smoking and struggled to get it started, even after I changed the plug and air filter) ...

    they charged me £55 inclusive of collection/delivery .... deal was done over the phone

    when it was delivered, the guy said that I got a bargain as there was several things that needed doing, but because they had a price promise and had quoted a fixed price, they never raised the price

    I noted that they also sharpened and balanced the blade, there was a new petrol cap and a front wheel was replaced .... there were perhaps several other items replaced which I am not aware of

    very good friendly guys and excellent service ...

    and after it was serviced, found a youtube clip showing how to change the diaphragm ... costs approx £10 for the gasket and takes approx 5 minutes
     
  6. Steve R

    Steve R Soil Furtler

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2008
    Messages:
    3,892
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Carer
    Location:
    Cumbria
    Ratings:
    +3,699
    Dont forget your strimmers, brushcutters, chainsaws and rotovators too!

    Steve...:)
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • shiney

      shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

      Joined:
      Jul 3, 2006
      Messages:
      61,368
      Gender:
      Male
      Occupation:
      Retired - Last Century!!!
      Location:
      Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
      Ratings:
      +118,494
      Your right, dim :dbgrtmb:. It was a full service. They sharpen the blade (rotary), sometimes replace it, fully charge the battery (key start), clean the machine and touch up damaged paintwork and start the mower when they bring it back in order to show that it works OK. Good service :dbgrtmb:
       
    • Phil A

      Phil A Guest

      Ratings:
      +0
      I normally pot mine up in a mixture of peat, well draining grit and vermiculite, wrap some hessian round the pot & store in a dry, frost free place untill spring.

      Bother, been listening to gardeners question time too long:DOH:
       
      • Like Like x 2
      • Jack McHammocklashing

        Jack McHammocklashing Sludgemariner

        Joined:
        May 29, 2011
        Messages:
        4,396
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        Ex Civil Serpent
        Location:
        Fife Scotland
        Ratings:
        +7,297
        I hope you mean start the mower and empty what is left in the carb BEFORE YOU HAVE DRAINED THE OIL or it will sieze / or at the very least damage the piston rings

        Engineer You naught naughty boy you

        Jack McH
         
        • Like Like x 1
        • *dim*

          *dim* Head Gardener

          Joined:
          Jun 26, 2011
          Messages:
          3,548
          Location:
          Cambridge
          Ratings:
          +1,593
          :heehee: ... OOPS forgot .... there are some lady gardeners here who may drain the oil and pertol, then start it ...

          so to claarify ..... tip the mower upside down .... drain a much petrol as you can

          start the mower .... let it run till it stops due to lack of petrol

          remove the oil cap ... tip it to it's side and drain as much oil as you can

          but don't tip the oil or petrol on your lawn or flower bed .... do it in a container such as an old plastic lunch tin or similar and dispose of it properly and safely

          :dbgrtmb:
           
        • Axl

          Axl Gardener

          Joined:
          Nov 23, 2009
          Messages:
          703
          Gender:
          Male
          Ratings:
          +446
          Don't you mean remove the air filter before tipping to drain the petrol. Replace the air filter prior to starting the mower to starve of petrol then remove the air filter prior to tipping to drain the oil!?
           
        • Jack McHammocklashing

          Jack McHammocklashing Sludgemariner

          Joined:
          May 29, 2011
          Messages:
          4,396
          Gender:
          Male
          Occupation:
          Ex Civil Serpent
          Location:
          Fife Scotland
          Ratings:
          +7,297
          Omg

          OMG You have done it now
          Doubting genders capabilities :heehee:

          Don flack jacket and just where is the smilie for popcorn

          Jack McH
           
          • Like Like x 1
          • shiney

            shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

            Joined:
            Jul 3, 2006
            Messages:
            61,368
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Retired - Last Century!!!
            Location:
            Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
            Ratings:
            +118,494
            Run for the hills!!!!!!

            :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :runhills: :runhills: :runhills: :runhills:
             
          • Trunky

            Trunky ...who nose about gardening

            Joined:
            Apr 23, 2011
            Messages:
            2,926
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Professional Gardener (retired)
            Location:
            East Suffolk
            Ratings:
            +10,739
            A full winter service is always a good idea if you have a lot of grass to cut.
            If your mower doesn't do much work though, a few drops of of this in the fuel will be sufficient to avoid any starting problems in the spring: Fresh Start Fuel Stabilizer Plus | Shop BriggsAndStratton.com.
            Most garden machinery servicing providers will have it available.
            I've been using this in my mower and petrol can for winter storage for several years now and it starts first or second pull in the spring every year. :dbgrtmb:
            (Suitable for use by both sexes). :heehee:
             
            • Like Like x 1
            • JWK

              JWK Gardener Staff Member

              Joined:
              Jun 3, 2008
              Messages:
              30,884
              Gender:
              Male
              Location:
              Surrey
              Ratings:
              +46,164
              Don't tip a four stroke engine upside down! Oil will leak out of the filler and will also flood the cylinder and foul the plug preventing it from starting. Best to syphon the petrol out or detach the pipe to the carb to drain out the petrol.

              I can't think of any good reason why you would drain the oil, I can think of several bad reasons. My manufacturer's instructions recommend topping up the oil level prior to overwintering.

              :dbgrtmb:
               
            Loading...

            Share This Page

            1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
              By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
              Dismiss Notice