Petrol/diesel prices

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by pete, Feb 22, 2011.

  1. shiney

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    When I was a kid I remember spending a two week working holiday on the canal boats (my friend's father's job).

    Even in those days he said that the business was becoming extinct not only because of road and rail transport but because of how long it took to transport goods by canal. The labour costs (supporting him and his family) were outweighing the advantage of cheap transport. Taking a week to go from London to Birmingham (don't actually remember how long it took) instead of the few hours by lorry added a week's wages to the transport costs.
     
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    Best to just do nothing then.

    If I remember right (and I might not have), last time we had national fuel strikes the government backed down a bit on something. Can't really remember the details though.

    It seems to me that the very reason the outcome was not as good as it could have been last time was that us British people were not united. Instead of saying to ourselves, 'the tanker drivers are trying to get fuel prices under control so we can all afford to get to work', a lot of people just went mad, panic buying bread and other basic supplies just in case we were all going to starve and die.

    At the time of the last fuel strike, I remember everyone panic buying fuel just before it was due to start. I didn't, I just filled up when I needed to, taking the stance that if I can't fill up, fair enough. Once my tank was full, I simply told the missus that the car is reserved for essential use only, until the strikes had finished. It worked for me. If everyone else had done the same then demand at the pumps would have dropped through the floor, and that would have got people's attention.
     
  3. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Back in the days of the last fuel problems I worked nearer to home so a tank of fuel got me to work and back for two weeks.
    I'm not in that position now, so if we get another round of fuel/tanker problems I'd manage a week perhaps, after that I'd need to stay at home and perhaps spend my time walking to the shops to get the food thats not been delivered.:mad:

    This is a BIG problem and cant just be brushed under the carpet, we all depend on the stuff, and tinkering around with the odd car engine or a barge or two of coal is not, in this day and age, going to change anything.

    I agree we need a new source of power/fuel, but there dont seem to be any viable alternatives out there at the moment.

    So its up to politicians to sort it out, trouble is none of them have a clue and assume we just carry on, full steam ahead, piling more and more tax onto transport.
    At some point we will reach the straw that breaks the camels back, god help us then.
     
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    I agree, Pete, this is something we can''t sweep under the carpet or trivialize and "tinkering around with the odd car engine or a barge or wo of coal is not, in this day and age, going to change anything". There is going to be in, say, 40 - 50 years a energy crisis that we can't avoid and somehow, somewhere we've got to come up with an alternative energy which can be used globally, safely and reliably - and I'll be damned if I know what it is.
     
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