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Saving tubers

Discussion in 'Other Plants' started by Fat Controller, Sep 23, 2012.

  1. Fat Controller

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    I have a good few begonias and dahlias that have given some really pretty flowers despite the rotten weather, and although they were sold as annuals I believe that their tubers can be saved for a head start next year?

    What is the process for salvaging/saving them, and storing them?

    The ones I am looking at keeping are:

    Begonia Apricot Shades (bought as plug plants, but I now notice T&M selling them as tubers)

    Dahlia XXXL and mixed Dahlia (bought from Sainsburys as annuals)

    And finally, assuming storage has been successful, is it just a case of planting them in a pot watering them and warming them up in the greenhouse?
     
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    Hi FC

    With Begonias from plugs you need to keep them growing as long as possible ie put them in the greenhouse to make sure the tubers can grow a bit bigger (size matters the bigger you get them the better) slowly cut down on the watering and let them die down then totaly stop the water and let them dry out so all the foliage dies down cut this all off and tip the pot out/basket sort through and clean all the soil off (this helps with vine weevil grubs as well to get rid) I use fresh compost to store them place them in a seed tray sitting on the top just slightly underneath but leave a space in between a dusting of sulphur helps to stop rot then keep in a cool frost free place until late March , check them all over for rot slightly dampen the compost then put in the airing cupboard to start them into growth , as soon as the shoots appear take them out keep them somwhere warm and out of the miday sun. Pot up into own pot and grow them on in the greenhouse put some fleece over them at night time to keep warm . DONT OVER WATER THEY WILL ROT

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      Thanks Spruce - they are currently still in full flower, although I am expecting that they will start to fall over shortly; do I wait until most of the flowers drop off, or is it more important to bring them in sooner rather than later?

      Also, where would I get sulphur from?
       
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      003.JPG Hi FC

      I am in the same boat as you as these picture's are plugs as well and they are still in full flower, I just need to keep a eye on frost and I will keep in the greenhouse and let them grow as long as I can .
      I would say sooner rather than later plus will look great in your new Greenhouse as soon as you see they are stopping to flower start cutting down on the water

      E bay sells Flowers of Sulphur diffrent prices cheapest £2.65 without P&P

      Also known as Brimstone , you can use this on the dahlias as well , keeps for ages in a closed tin/jar out of the sun and cool.
      Dropped out of fashion with gardeners I dont know why to be honest as I always use in the Autumn tubers , corms etc


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        I'll get the bags in tomorrow then - they are barely absorbing any water now anyway, as the compost has gone pretty solid; I'll do the baskets over the next couple of weeks or so.

        Your basket looks great - are those 'crackling fire'?

        And what is the trailing foliage in with them?
         
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        Yes Crackling fire (just hope I do have tubers time will tell) , with trailing Nepeta .

        Thanks FC glad you like them they are bigger than this now and still covered in blossom
        Bit of a competition around here who has the best !! I think the GC member is still winning :lunapic 130165696578242 5:

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          I bought some from a local nursery last yr for black rot on the cacti,i think it cost me £2.45 for 225g,vitax yellow sulphur :) i didnt realise it can be used for bulbs as i dint read the label till now :heehee: so thanks spruce :blue thumb:
           
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            Its a pleasure Joolz:love30:

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              Lovely thread this and good posts :ThankYou: worthy of reading. I hope to nuture my Begonia Sutherlandii thru' Winter. Still looking good and appreciating today's rain. It is a lot warmer down South so I will hold off moving them until the really cold weather threatens damage,
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                Do some of them not produce tubers then?

                I'll need to try and remember the name nepeta for next year, and add some to my baskets - they've been a bit 'bland' looking this year.
                 
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                FC, no they put all the growth into flowers thats why we need to extend the season with them (modern varieties)
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                  :blue thumb: Thanks - I'll make sure that I grow them on in the greenhouse once they stop flowering then, and hopefully I will get lucky.
                   
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                    FC I have grown B. Illuminations ( apricot shades ) for a few years now. Spruces advice is spot on . I tend to lift my tubers in mid November , let the stems die back , then remove stems and as much soil as possible. I dust in sulpher powder , wrap in shreded paper and store in onion bags, hanging in the garage. Sulpher is not essential but I did have maggots coming out of them one year when starting them. I had to make sure Mrs H never saw them ! I repot them end of Feb and start them in the house. I find about two thirds of the tubers regrow.
                    Photos are from 2008 , B. Bonfire , same family as Crackling fire , and B. Illumination red white and orange.
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                      I agree with what has been said, regarding begonias, but one word of warning I would like to give is to not wait too long.
                      Its difficult to dry things out well by November, and you can end up with stems still attached for a long time, I dont like to remove the stems from the tubers until they fall away on their own.

                      Dahlias are a bit different, can be left until the frost kills the top growth, then dig up and cut away the dead stems, and stand upside down for a couple of weeks.

                      I find both types of tubers store ok in net bags hanging in a shady part of the greenhouse frost free.
                       
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                        This is great! I am really glad I asked the question now. To think I was going to ditch them all in the bin.
                         
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