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Spear & Jackson

Discussion in 'Tools And Equipment' started by Fat Controller, May 17, 2015.

  1. Fat Controller

    Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

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    Are they not what they used to be in terms of quality?

    I made a start on re-shaping my lawn to day, and about an hour in my edging tool (S&J Select) decided to snap off where the shank meets the head - - it sort of leaned over to one side whilst straight upright in the ground and then snapped off;
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    Undeterred, I popped out to my local garden centre (which was absolutely mobbed!) and bought myself a new one. Less than one metre after starting to use it, it bent:

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    Essentially, it has started to tear away at the point where the 'hoop' connects to the blade.

    For the record, I was not using this as the sole tool either - I was using my spade (also S&J) for the donkey work and the edging knife for creating the finer edge. This new knife is said to have a ten year guarantee, but it didn't even last ten minutes!

    I will be taking it back for a refund tomorrow (cannot be bothered fighting the car park queue for a second time today), but that is my day's work essentially stuffed - - to say I was displeased when it bent is an understatement (proper Scottish sweary words ensued) :wallbanging:

    So, Spear & Jackson - not what they once were?

    And of course, can anyone recommend an edging knife that is not made of cheese?
     
  2. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Unfortunately a lot of tool manufactures have gone this way.
    If they dont, they tend to disappear entirely.

    They probably get the stuff from China, made by a 10year old in a sweatshop.
    Put the Spear and Jackson name on it and make loads of money.

    Take it back by all means FC, but fire off an e mail or two the the main company, they need to know the public wont put up with this junk.
     
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      Your best bet is going along to your local car-boot sale and you should be able to pick up a good second-hand edging tool for a very modest price, alternatively put a post of Freecycle - you never know someone may be having a clear out. I am of the view that a good second-hand tool which has lasted 20-30 years has at least as much life left in it again. My own edging tool by Elwell is over 40 years old and still going strong!
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      Elwell were absorbed into the Spear and Jackson empire in 1967 and tools were made under the name "Spearwell" - still of very fine quality. You might find the attached link intereting - just look at the famous names which ended up under the S&J banner. Link: http://www.timelesstools.co.uk/s&j_family_tree.htm


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        Jiffy The Match is on Fire

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        Tis made out of monkey metal now not metal at all
         
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          I wouldn't mind, but at £30 it wasn't exactly cheap! I will look about and see if I can get a good second hand or old one that is made of something substantial.
           
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            You could reweld it, i renewed mine, grind off the bit on the cutting edge and get a bit of bar which will fit up into the handle and tack it in place then weld it to the cutting plate :dbgrtmb:
             
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            The weld itself has held, it is the flat metal that has sort of torn - I will try and get a close up to show you what I mean.
             
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            I was looking at the first picture FC

            You'll not to use them as a lever they for cutting :snork:
             
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            I understand that, but as you know there has to be a bit of leverage to get the blade back out - at the time it bent, there was approx 2-in of turf on the outside of the blade, as I had removed the rest with my spade.

            The first picture shows the old one - it appears to be some sort of fatigue, as it failed in completely the opposite direction. In fairness to the first one, it got left out in all sorts of weather last year whilst I was 'between sheds', so I wondered if that had a bearing on things
             
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            Following the theme of the old tool makers, I've just checked my basic tools and the makers are:
            Spade - Bulldog
            Forks - Elwell and Bulldog
            Hoes- S&J / Jenks & Cattell / Spearwell
            Rake- Jenks & Cattell
            Trowels - Brades / Skelton / Morris of Dunsford
            Hand Forks - English Tools Ltd / Jenks & Cattel

            All of course, MADE IN ENGLAND.
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              I returned to the garden centre today, with semi-knackered edging knife in hand.... they were very good about it actually, and offered a refund or replacement without question; as I needed one, I asked the woman if there were any in stock that she could recommend, and she led me to this one - and in all fairness, it does seem to be built like a brick outhouse. Hand made in England.

              I have had a wee shot of it already, and it is a world apart from the one I bought yesterday - best of all, it was a quid cheaper!
               
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                And you can stand up to do the job
                 
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                  pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                  Looks a lot better than than that piece of tin spotwelded to a semicircle.:blue thumb:
                   
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