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  1. Jiffy

    Jiffy The Match is on Fire

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    Good old engine, A European haulage company i know went to buy a new lorry for european work only but asked for it to have a Garder in it, the lorry company said no it's can only be a new engine, so he bought the lorry with out the engine and put his own gardner in it, the lorry company asked why, he said when in India and countrys like that you can still get the parts :dbgrtmb:
     
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      Aye, I have a very soft spot for a Gardner - absolute workhorse, supremely reliable, and sounded like a proper engine should; the other one that I loved the sound of was the Leyland 680 :dbgrtmb:
       
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        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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        Years ago in America I always liked the sound of some of their big engined motors.
        One for FC would have been the Greyhound bus, nice sound and black smoke when working hard.
        The big trucks also have a very nice "growl".
        But dont know a thing about what engines they use.

        Anyone noticed how modern Buses just kind of "Whine", its not the same.
         
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          Most lorrys will have a (huming) cummins in there :dbgrtmb: differant exhaust pipes make differant sounds
          not sure about a bus
          some car will have chevey 5.6 litres :dbgrtmb:
           
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            Slight digression from the Spitfire theme (but I see we've already digressed so I don't feel so guilty:) )...

            One afternoon I was out in the garden and I heard the engine of a small aeroplane overheard. All perfectly normal. We're not too many miles from an airport. What got my attention was not the engine sound, but the sudden absence of it, so I looked up. There was a little aeroplane which by now appeared to be banking as though aiming urgently for Teesside airport. Then the engine sound was back for a few seconds, then gone again, and it continued like this for a little while, with the engine cutting out, starting back up, running very erratically (engine tone up and down all over) before cutting out again.

            I never heard any sirens and there was nothing on the news so I can only assume (and hope) they made it.
             
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              It may be some one being trained to fly, i think not sure they have to learn to fly the plane when the engine cuts out, we get it here most days
               
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                Its only the second time in my life I've witnessed an airborne aircraft showing signs of engine trouble (induced or not). The first time was when I was about 4, and my nanna raced my sister and I down to the big car park near the beach to watch the helicopter coming down. Despite it being a long time ago, I remember it vividly. It was some form of army helicopter and it was oozing thick black smoke as it came down. In hindsight my nanna was probably a bit silly to take us to watch, but I guess she just had faith in the pilot. The stricken helicopter made its emergency landing in the car park, as a growing crowd watched. Being 4, I remember not really understanding what was going on, but as I look back now, I remember the pilot getting out, visibly shaking like a leaf, as he got his cigarrettes out, hands shaking like crazy, and sparked up. After a few drags, he then composed himself and ordered us all to 'GET AWAY FROM THE HELICOPTER NOW!'. In hindsight, that makes sense. Machine carrying lots of aviation fuel, billowing thick black smoke, should equal, every man for himself, leg it.
                 
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                Usually at airshows its not uncommon for the spitfire engines to cough and splutter, pop and bang, the earlier ones tend to lose power when pulling "G", I believe its to do with the carburetors, but just adds to the sound of the Merlin.
                 
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                The older American stuff would most likely have the older Cummins, Detroit or Caterpillar lumps - some of them made a nice noise too.

                The engine/gearbox combinations are quite a restricted range nowadays - anything from Alexander Dennis is almost certain to have a Cummins lump which sound nothing like the old ones mostly due to having high-pressure common rail fuel systems (CAPS or Cummin's Accumulated Pressure System if my memory serves me correctly); the other main players being Volvo, Scania (these still sound half decent), and Mercedes seem to be becoming more popular again.

                One of the reasons for the 'whine' is actually down to the gearboxes that the engine is mated to - Allison gearboxes (common on some recent Dennis Darts/Pointers) tend to be noted for their high pitched 'squeally' noise especially when changing gear, the Voith (very common on the old Metrobus and Olympians) is the one that 'whines' even when the bus is stationary, and the ZF (also quite common on old Olympians) makes a 'wooing' sort of noise - - unsurprisingly YouTube is littered with videos of the sounds of various engine and gearbox combinations.
                 
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