whats happening to my roses?

they have black spots on the leaves but also the roses also look damaged. a neighbour said they were water damaged by the rain. any ideas?

 

Definitely rain damage, some of mine looked like this so I cut them off!! It's horrid weather for August!! :(

Val

 

Some roses are more weather tolerant than others.
Some will stand through wet weather and others are just a mess if it rains on them.
I think your rose buds just look spoiled with the rain - what a shame.
As for the black spots on the leaves - it could be blackspot, due to pollution. I don't think there's much you can do about it.
Where in the country are you, that might help with our recommendations.

 

Thanks folks , Alice i am in suffolk. The growing conditions were abysmal until a while back , basically the garden had been unattended for several years and was badly over grown. Apart from cutting it all back and watering the roses every now and then i have done nothing more to it.
The spots have appeared on all my rose bushesall over the garden.
Do i need to use an anti fungal spray or something?

 

ok guys i have removed all the infected leaves however it has taken a good 80% of the plant. i do think that a lot of it will be in the soil as a lot of leaves were lying on the ground.
do you think spraying them would be a good idea then? is there any kind of environmentally friendly way to kill the fungus? i have heard good things about neem oil killing bugs , would this work?