Don't sit on the fence Amanda.

I still don't get why Scottish mp's should have the right to vote in Westminster about English ( or N. Irish, Welsh for that matter ) Laws etc when the rest of the MP's down here don't have any say in Scotland.

A point in mind is Sunday trading laws. In Scotland they voted yes for more normal trading hours then they came down to Westminster and voted against it.
I'm sorry, but why ? That stinks of anti-englishness to me.
The Scottish Parliament is rapidly creating a " one rule for us one rule for the rest of the country " type of establishment.

 

You said yourself youve never been to Scotland yet you

And that's why we shouldn't vote on matters that have nothing to do with our own part of Britain. The Scots shouldn't vote on English matters and vice versa.
You do what you want with your trading laws and if we vote to get rid of the nuclear weapons and other things the English should respect that or it smacks of anti Scottish rhetoric and hypocracy.
Agree to stay out of each others business and move on as the UK or separate for good, with respect to one another or go down the road of hating one another instead. The choice is ours.Stronger together, but if we start hating each other and throwing insults we would probably be better splitting up. It would be like living in a soured marriage.

 

Yes?

 

Typo, using a new tablet and it went a bit pete tong

 

The Army/Westminster are about to anounce the closure of Fort George army base this week in N Scotland taking many jobs and tens of millions away from the local economy.
Isn't it funny how defending jobs is used when politicians want to keep something but when they want rid of something they're happy to sit back and watch tens of thousands loose their jobs, eg coal industry, steel industry, textiles industry, solar panel industry, ship building industry etc etc etc.

 

I'm sorry WeeTam, I disagree with you. The nuclear weapons etc are part of National Security, as in the security of The United Kingdom as a whole as are the army, the navy , the RAF etc, not just Scotland vs England vs Wales vs N. Ireland as in trading laws or other regional variations.

 

I'm sure earlier you made a direct reference to the UK imposing on Scotland to situate the nuclear kit there.

So is it fair to say then that Scotland's idea of fair is that they get the bits of UK assets they do want, and complain if those assets are taken away, but then complain about other assets that are part of the same broader package?

There is a saying my dad used to use when I was a whinging teenager that springs to mind now. It's a bit risqué to repeat here though

 

Similar point to the one I was trying to make, Clueless.

 

May I ask, if Scotland were to get independence, who would defend it? Would it still be up to BRITISH forces?

 

I would imagine we'd have to during a transition period but why would we after that. After all, we don't defend Australia, New Zealand or anywhere else that used to be part of us do we.

 

The position right now is Scotland gets the nuclear missiles the nuclear submarines, the weapons firing ranges, the mod land that takes up an area of land 8times the size of Glasgow. My folks house gets buzzed regularly with fighter jets,hercules etc doing extreme low flying which can be quite cool at times admittedly.
And what does England get? Seems to me you get all the admin jobs, the nice horses and shiny soldiers doing their royal duties and looking all cute for the tourists. Lots of sirs and lords that are ex forces.
The spread of good and bad bits is screwed in Englands favour big time.

 

We would be capable of looking after ourselves . Look at the history of the British forces over the decades. The Scots were some of the best fighters in the army, indeed they were sent in with the Welsh to do the real fighting.
I can't see an independent Scotland trying to pick a fight with anyone unlike dafty Boris whos going on about those nasty Russians day after day and wanting people to protest outside the Russian embassy, what a clown

 

If that happens we are all screwed anyway. The Russian military is far more advanced and bigger than anything the British or Americans have . Some retired army general said a fortnight ago that Russia could invade and beat the British within 48hours, Google it.