Grape Vine help wanted please.

Discussion in 'Edible Gardening' started by Tim B, Apr 4, 2020.

  1. Tim B

    Tim B Apprentice Gardener

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2020
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +0
    Hello folks,

    I recently acquired a grape vine which had been growing around a tree.

    Can I train in it's present form to grow around something other than a tree or do I need to cut it back to near the surface and start again?

    Thanks all

    Tim
     

    Attached Files:

  2. Kristen

    Kristen Under gardener

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2006
    Messages:
    17,534
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Suffolk, UK
    Ratings:
    +12,667
    I'd cut it right back and start again ... be interested to hear what others think though.
     
  3. Tim B

    Tim B Apprentice Gardener

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2020
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +0

    Thanks Kristen, I would be interested in what other's think too.
     
  4. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    47,718
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Mid Kent
    Ratings:
    +84,360
    Are you growing it for fruit or just as an ornamental?

    You cant really cut back that brown wood now, it will bleed badly.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Tim B

      Tim B Apprentice Gardener

      Joined:
      Apr 4, 2020
      Messages:
      5
      Gender:
      Male
      Ratings:
      +0

      Fruit
       
    • pete

      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

      Joined:
      Jan 9, 2005
      Messages:
      47,718
      Gender:
      Male
      Occupation:
      Retired
      Location:
      Mid Kent
      Ratings:
      +84,360
      Mmmm, think I'd plant it and try my best to attach it to a framework without damaging the stems.
      Then next winter looking to prune and shape it back to something more manageable.

      Its going to need some watering right through the summer to get it established.
       
      • Agree Agree x 1
      • Tim B

        Tim B Apprentice Gardener

        Joined:
        Apr 4, 2020
        Messages:
        5
        Gender:
        Male
        Ratings:
        +0
        Pete,

        That sounds like good advice.

        One further thought, would it find it's way around whatever I attach it to or will it just stay in the shape it's already become?

        Many thanks

        Tim
         
      • pete

        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

        Joined:
        Jan 9, 2005
        Messages:
        47,718
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        Retired
        Location:
        Mid Kent
        Ratings:
        +84,360
        Well I'd try to unwind it a bit but don't damage the stems, they will break if you pull them around to much.
        I'd not expect too much growth from it this year due to getting the roots established, but I think you will probably end up pruning,any new growth it makes, off next winter.
         
        • Agree Agree x 1
        • Kristen

          Kristen Under gardener

          Joined:
          Jul 22, 2006
          Messages:
          17,534
          Gender:
          Male
          Location:
          Suffolk, UK
          Ratings:
          +12,667
          As Pete says you are probably going to have to prune it next Winter, so this is a multi-year project, but if you want Fruit you are going to have to manage the plant / pruning to maximise that, so I don't reckon "training itself around something" is going to be an option :biggrin:
           
          • Agree Agree x 1
          • alana

            alana Super Gardener

            Joined:
            May 5, 2008
            Messages:
            762
            Occupation:
            Head Gardener
            Location:
            Far East of Suffolk
            Ratings:
            +2,618
            I have a grape vine in a pot which is starting into vigorous growth. I would like to plant it in the ground. Is it okay to cut it back before moving it? It is several years old and currently taking up space where I would like to put my Apricot Tree. Any advice on this please?
             
          • pete

            pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

            Joined:
            Jan 9, 2005
            Messages:
            47,718
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Retired
            Location:
            Mid Kent
            Ratings:
            +84,360
            I wouldn't prune it this late, as I said earlier, it will bleed badly for quite a while..
            Plant it out by all means, but save pruning till the winter. :smile:
             
            • Agree Agree x 1
            • alana

              alana Super Gardener

              Joined:
              May 5, 2008
              Messages:
              762
              Occupation:
              Head Gardener
              Location:
              Far East of Suffolk
              Ratings:
              +2,618
              Thanks @pete - I'll have fun disentangling it :)
               
              • Like Like x 1
              Loading...

              Share This Page

              1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                Dismiss Notice