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  1. mac12

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    You can't just tease us, what's the problem?
     
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      Definitely maybe. :thumbsup:
       
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        I wish I could disagree. That looks like even more of a factor for adults trying to get diagnosed with the same things. I know one woman who only ever seems to have conditions which are very difficult to disprove e.g. fibromyalgia, ME, back problems. I must stress that I'm not suggesting that for many people they are not all too real.
         
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          How well do you know the owner? Are you on good terms? Is s/he likely to take offence? Is the issue likely to cause a problem for you if not addressed, or just for them?
           
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            I think it's something that has been coming along for a while now.
            Nobody is normal, we are all different but these days it has to have a name.
            Not saying these things are not there just that once it gets a name for some reason people feel relieved.
            I can remember lots of kids that struggled at school, but it wasn't given a name, surprisingly a lot of them did pretty well in adult life, just because you don't fit the parameters of what is considered normal doesn't mean you need some letters after your name. :smile:
             
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              ADHD presumably affected every pupil in the school when I was a kid in the 50s and 60s. Some lessons such as History and RE were so boring the vast majority of the class spent the time staring out of the windows. We most definitely had Attention Deficit during those lessons.
               
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                I would say most people who suffer debilitating symptoms that severely impact their lives would really appreciate a firm diagnosis. Even if there is no treatment, knowing what's wrong can be empowering. It takes out the guesswork and deflects the scorn of the world, including many (most even) medical professionals.

                Monetising symptoms is a different thing altogether, but that's a problem with the benefits system, not the individual, and a difficulty created by a world of employment that brooks no accommodation for such illnesses. And before anyone says employers have to make adjustments for disabilities, yeah, right!

                You have to have been there ...
                 
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                  I would say better than average, Good-ish, No, it could but not for serton, it will be a problem for them and could be for others if the worst happens

                  I've told the owner before about things that have happen but as there has been many i feel like i will become a pain in the back side
                   
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                    I disagree that the individual is not part of the problem in some cases, certainly not all. There are far too many people out there who know how to play the system. The apparently massive increase in claims for stress, anxiety, depression plus those mention previously such as ADHD also need to be looked at very closely. I was reading an article by a doctor recently who said that people are demanding that whenever they go to a doctor, they demand that they be given a diagnosis rather than just being told the xyz is simply part of normal life. I'm sure we've all been through tough times, I know I have, but using short term issues to get long term benefits?
                    I worked for DWP for several years and saw many benefit claims which seemed to be dubious to say the least, but there wasn't time to get them properly investigated.
                     
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                      What is the problem Jiffy. If you explain further perhaps we could help.
                       
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                        @KT53, my point is the benefits system not being fit for purpose is not the fault of the unwell person. Being diagnosed with a condition and gaining monetary benefit from that diagnosis are two different things. Some people may set out to get the first specifically to get the second, of course.
                         
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                          Hmm, if this is a regular occurrence, I might leave them to it. It's not your responsibility to anticipate their errors. I'm assuming no lives are in imminent danger, of course. ;)

                          Wall to wall greyness here again today. :th scifD36: Starting to get on my nerves!
                           
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                            I used to spend hours watching the bloke driving the tractor mowing the playing fields, yes we had playing fields back then before they sold them all off and built houses, it was so much more interesting than half the stuff they taught us.
                            In the summer I just wanted to be outside.:gaah:
                             
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                              @KT53 That's one of the problems nowadays isn't it- people's expectations have risen to such a degree that many consider it their right to receive assistance ( government or charity ) for practically any issue which impinges on their chosen lifestyle. I'm not talking about those in need of life saving help or those who are truly impacted by serious problems re medical issues, disabilities ,feeding or housing themselves or escaping from war zones, political repression or danger to life. Life has it's problems - Paradise, if it ever existed, has long gone. Stress, anxiety, depression and hard times are part of life - a person would be extremely lucky not to encounter all or some of these at some point.
                              One bit on the news recently ......... a Refuse collector in favour of striking for better pay and conditions and altho he could well have a point ( I don't know the full Ins and Outs re that particular issue). his main comment was that he had 5 children to care for !!! Makes you wonder when family responsibility, not to mention birth control, went out of fashion.
                              There is cetainly a lot of improvement to be made but has to be within reason.
                               
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                                I didn’t see the clip you’re referring to @Philippa and I don’t support the strike but the issue in Brum is that some are having their pay reduced by £6k a year. That puts a different context on his comments re having a family to support
                                 
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