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  1. CanadianLori

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    The Liberals have brought this country to it's knees and Carney was advising them throughout the last decade of this mess. They still have the same people at the top who will make the same mistakes. Carney even took credit for advising in 2008 but what he really did was take credit for the work of the Minister of Finance who had just passed from cancer! Talk about grave robbing. Carney also has lots and lots of baggage too. Having put all of his holdings in a "blind trust" will obviously not erase his memory of what they control. He's proposing types of building homes which will benefit one of his companies, he's proposing all sorts of things which if it wasn't for the "blind" trust, would be considered a conflict of interest. He also plagiarized some of his thesis paper which proves he's a thief of ideas!

    The conservative guy is a very intelligent, well educated man who is not part of the 1% and is not a socialist.

    Anywho, they're still counting to see if the Carney victory is a majority or a minority government outcome.

    We've only got just under 4 more years of Trump to go and hopefully the same for Carney.
     
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      One thing different, UK can fit into Wyoming. And recently population has shown a decline to the point that Trump wants to give money to encourage having children. Rainfall has to do with mother nature nothing else. Most of the population is on the East coast and West coast, going toward the center population very little.
       
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      The French did that after WW2 @redstar but not by limiting women's choices or bullying. They paid families child support which increased with each child. They housed them in bigger houses and apartments in local authority housing schemes. They even invented the Renault Espace to take 7 people as ordinary cars could only manage 5 and they provided education up to the age of 18 and health care for all.

      @ViewAhead housing costs and shortages are the same across the developed world with the middle classes now taking the brunt. Every successful economy has been one where the working classes can aspire to improve themselves and become wealthier and middle classes who can innovate, manage, create employment. When you mess with that liberty you stagnate economies and societies.

      Remember Carnegie? Dirt poor Scot who learned laods just by reading books loaned to him by a wealthy benefactor. He repaid that deby by spending his millions building libraries for all to share and learn. What did Dolly Parton do with the millions she earned in royalties from Whitney Houston's sales of Always? Built a housing project for black people.

      Deporting chidlren with cancer, arresting judges who obey the law and don't bow to teh demagogue, cancelling funding for wildlife care, science and exploration of how the planet and its weather systems work will not ever MAGA.
       
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        Economies don't work any more because the wealthy have been allowed to siphon out resources at an ever increasing rate. Until that is addressed, the problem of housing shortages and affordability will remain ... and get steadily worse.

        I was reading an article recently that blamed the Boomer generation as we own property. But that is just trying to stir up inter-generational conflict to distract from the real source of the problem, the super-wealthy.
         
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          Yes, the thing about the working and middle classes is that they spend money on daily goods and services and keep the economy turning. The super rich either hoard it or spend it on vanity projects like space travel. If they paid just a 5% tax on their billions they could wipe out national debts, fund schooling and health care for all and care for the environment which will help everyone.
           
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            @CanadianLori I can understand your disappointment and annoyance that the 'wrong' party won the election. However, falling out with people who were formerly your friends over politics is rarely a good thing. There are no winners and it simply makes the divisions between the two sides even deeper and more difficult to bridge. Surely the USA can teach us that if nothing else.
             
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              Don't get me wrong, I'll be pleasant but I don't owe these people anything. They just live in my neighbourhood and aren't close friends, only acquaintances that I am pleasant to and used to share things with them. It was pretty much a one way street anyway so kind of a relief to have that SRO moment forced on me. :redface:

              The liberals did not get their majority. If nothing else, it will be an interesting 4 years. As I said, then Trump will be gone too and he hopefully won't try interfering in our elections any more either!
               
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                Just watching the ITV news and basically there was no mention of other parties in the Canadian elections, from here its being shown as a one horse race, no mention of other parties policy or even for that matter liberal policies.
                Its just being shown over here as a anti Trump vote, but surely all the other parties were against Trump invading Canada.:dunno:

                The Trump hysteria just goes on, it appears if you are anti Trump that is all that matters.:roflol:
                 
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                  That's why you won't see me commenting on elections in other countries because I don't know if I'm hearing all sides of the platforms. I do read the news and comments sections of 5 newspapers pretty much every day and they each have a different slant on their reporting so I think I'm getting the all round information.

                  Mark Carney just finished saying he will "govern" all of the people of Canada .... already a governor? :yikes:
                   
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                    Does a Governor Trump a Prime Minister?
                     
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                      To be fair, Kermit the Frog could trump our Prime Minister... in fact, any of the last five or more.
                       
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                        Not if he's the head of the 51st state
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                          Anyway Trump was doing fairly well in the snooker earlier:biggrin:
                           
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                            Trump is busy censoring the information that gets out to the American people.
                            Wouldn’t it be dreadful if consumers found out exactly how much the tariffs are adding to the goods they buy?
                            And even worse, those unenlightened Trump supporters who are still looking forward to all the lovely tariff income coming in from abroad, will suddenly realise that they are the ones paying it to Trump’s government!
                             
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                              I think tariffs are misunderstood in the same way the energy price cap and proportional representation were here. These things are simple to explain, but if you don't actually want people to understand them, they are also easy to wrap up in language so the central point gets obscured.
                               
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