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  1. NigelJ

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    Use a large magnet.
    I did enjoy the film Conclave.
     
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      Even if empty containers aren't being moved, the effect for dock workers, and hauliers, is the same. No work and no pay. Also no income for those running the docks, the shipping companies.......
       
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        Even containers that are full aren't necessarily going to shops because more are going to bonds, sitting in a sort of no man's land, where you only pay tariffs when they leave. Lots of businesses are holding bonded stock until the tariffs are reduced.
         
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          Qui bono?

          For centuries the Catholic church kept its following by not encouraging the masses to learn anything more than the local priest told them. Teaching them to read and do sums led to too many questioning the status quo and, for example, meant that in certain areas of France during the 1789 Revolution, the peasants were happy to ditch the nobility but resisted wiping out the clergy and its churches. The Vendée paid a heavy roice for that with Napoleon and his troops doing some fine "cleansing". Islam and its ayatollahs and imams are doing it now.

          All this to say that the new church is money and the oligarchs are not interested in having a populace with ideas so they're dumbing down education, censoring what people can read, closing down museums where they might learn some history and science and threatening universities by withholding funding unless they accept "guidance". Harvard is resisting but others have crumbled.

          All the Red states have more prisons than colleges and low educational achievement rates. As long as poorly educated people in the USA are susceptible to the kind of mind bending and fake news they're getting from the likes of the Fox corporation they will believe that its immigrants stealng jobs rather than oligarchs exporting their manufacturing to countries where pay lavels, social conditions and lack of unions mean they can produce cheaply and with little or no regard to workers' rights to decent conditions and pay and no regard to environmental protections.

          Exporting those jobs to China means they also lost the technology and China has been quick to take it, adapt it and improve it so they have more automated factories and make better EVs. China is also very happy to exploit its peasant labour and captive labour such as the Ouigas and is using the profits to build infrastructure which benefits all its citizens eventually. China is good at the long game. Trump has the attention span of a gnat and is easily distracted and maniuplated which, combined with his own nastiness, makes him very dangerous.
           
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            yes, as my post said, someone was just asking why bring empty ships to U.S. ports and I replied to that question - I wasn't suggesting that the dock workers would suddenly have work.... ;)
             
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                Sorry if I gave the impression that's what you were suggesting, that certainly wasn't the intention. I wonder how many million Americans will be laid off before Trump starts to blame it all on his advisors.
                 
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                Or Biden.
                 
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                  He's already blaming it on Biden and has "forgotten" he ever said Zelensky was a dictator.
                   
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                    I'm not too well up on any religion but wasn't it "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours wife " or something along those lines ? So Trump is fine as no mention of coveting thy neighbours country, mineral wealth, manufacturing industries et al :biggrin:
                    As for "Thou shalt not steal " ??? It goes on openly every day ( bank robber eg ) or covertly ( many govts/business ).
                    I expect Trump will soon be listing his own 10 Commandments. The man is a fantasist but his supporters adore him. Fine for them but the rest of the world could do with a break from his silly antics.
                    Re Alcatraz I believe his intention is to return it to it's original purpose - a prison rather than a museum.
                     
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                      Right wing "Christians" are very good at selective reading and quoting @Philippa and forget Jesus' teachings about Love thy neighbour, feed the poor, heal the sick etc.

                      The Old Testament eye for an eye is more their style but yes, the 10th commandment is simple Covet.

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                        All religions are very good at selective reading ... and highly creative interpretation.
                         
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                            I could ‘t open the Independent story but I found this in an online Swedish newspaper. Unbelievable!




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                              Overreach born of overconfidence.
                               
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