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  1. Loofah

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    Plenty of senators to get Congress to do something about it all if warranted :noidea:
     
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    Was it 3 million or 4 million illegal immigrants that flooded the USA because of Biden and many were criminals. These criminals caused deaths to many USA citizens. they are illegal, they have broken laws, they need to be OUT. No one that is "legally" here has been affected.
     
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    @Obelix-Vendée Jimmy Carter put his farm into a Blind Trust during the time he was in office. AFTER---AFTER---his presidency he decided to sell it. Your information is wrong. So if your believing that false info, then you will believe other false information.
     
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    Regarding migrant workers ( legal or illegal ) I used to live in an agricultural area of Spain in the early 2000's. Many of the workers in the field were migrants - they lived in a delapidated barn behind us with no proper services. They were very pleasant people and often used to come to us for coffee, snacks and general chat. My neighbours ( Spanish ) were very contemptuous and didn't have a good word to say about them. It was only later as I got to know my neighbours better that I discovered that they also had been migrant workers ( in France ) many years previously.
    I'd guess OH and I could also have been termed migrant workers ( illegally I suspect as no work visa for France ) when we worked for a vineyard in eastern France for several months in 1968. We then moved on to Switzerland and were offered employment in the Geneva University restaurant but only if we obtained a work visa and to get that, we had to apply from outside Switzerland. Easily sorted by camping out in the Aosta Valley in N. Italy for several weeks from where we made our application. On our return to Geneva, we found the other restaurant workers were from Spain and not a Swiss national to be seen.
    Not much has really changed other than different nationalities being involved.
     
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      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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      I'm not sure any of these jobs are hard work, they get plenty of down time between .

      Give them all a shovel for 10 hours a day and then see if its hard work.:biggrin:

      Its ok for one day but the next day you have to get up and do it all over again.

      It doesn't really matter how someone walks down steps, lets face it he could be disabled in a wheelchair but still do the job.
       
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      OK @redstar I've fact checked and found this which indicates you are correct but also, that in his first term, trump was urged to do the same and refused, using a revocable trust instead which is less ethical - Report: Trump Assets in Revocable, Not Blind, Trust

      This time he's put his businesses in a family trust to be run by his children so a clear sham.

      As for gifts, your constitution bans them:
      Article I, Section 9, Clause 8: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

      If he does accept that plane, it will have to be re-built, piece by piece from the inside out to make it "bullet proof" for presidential transport and that will cost your hundreds of millions of pounds - https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/13/politics/converting-jet-air-force-one-trump-cost .

      This is just one report of US citizens being deported:
      Children who are U.S. citizens deported along with foreign-born mothers, attorneys say There are many more and they've arrested judge Hanah Dugan for not allowing ICE agents enter her courtroom during proceedings.

      Meanwhile, his tariffs are sending prices up for US citizens so trump has urged some purchasing restraint but not for billionaires of course.
      Billionaires needs.jpg
       
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        @pete Roosevelt needed a wheelchair after polio left him paralyzed from the waist down. Didn't affect his brain.

        @Loofah they're afraid. Republican congressmen and women report being threatened with political and financial difficulties for them and their regions if the don't go along with DOGE, ICe and the other cr*p. Clearly no steel in their backbones.
         
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          Perhaps all the new planes which world leaders have at their disposal should be fitted with Stair Lifts ? :biggrin:
           
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            @Obelix-Vendée, the headline would surely be worse if the child was left behind without its mother? If by giving birth to a child in the US, an illegal migrant had the right to stay, that would open the floodgates with heavily pregnant woman trying to make perilous journeys across closed borders to a land where they would not be entitled to any help with the delivery or associated problems.

            Immigration rules should discourage people from making dangerous decisions. That is why the channel crossings should have been stopped on day one. By allowing the trafficking to continue without obstacle, the gov is complicit in putting lives at risk, IMV.
             
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              Which was my point regarding him looking shaky walking down steps.

              This thread has gone totally crazy, we will be complaining out what toothpaste he uses next, and did he pay for it or was it a present.:roflol:

              I'm sure there is a link somewhere???????
               
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                @shiney I agree that age shouldn't be a limiting factor for anything but the number of fit, active people in their late 70-80's is far lower than at a lesser age. If a person is full of their mental faculties, relatively fit and healthy, then I have no problem. My allotment neighbour is older than Biden and we have lovely conversations about organic produce, forever chemicals, renewable energy and other topics that are more next generational problems. It nice that people care about the future even if they won't necessarily be in it long.
                 
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                  Does he have his own teeth, @pete? :biggrin:

                  I glanced at a close up of King Charles earlier and wondered why no one had ever suggested dental work to him. :scratch:
                   
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                  • pete

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                    I often wonder how much these people pay for a pair of choppers, they all have perfect ones, nice change to see someone with real teeth rather than implants.

                    Do the younger celebs have all their own ripped out and false ones put in? I wonder, I assume it means you will never get toothache.

                    Maybe we should go back to using ones from dead bodies or even wooden ones.
                     
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