Latest Moan From You and Me 2025

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  1. Thevictorian

    Thevictorian Super Gardener

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    I'm not talking about the people who complied with the rules during covid, more the people that would fill their trolley with pasta, rice or anything else that's probably still in their cupboards now, or rugby tackle a granny for the last pack of toilet rolls. There were shortages of certain things but people being selfish was the main problem.
     
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      True ... but I think that was probably more a feeling of panic than actively trying to deprive others of resources. It's like the petrol "shortages". One internet picture of a queue for fuel almost brought the country to a standstill.
       
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      • shiney

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        I suppose that living in a village area, one mile from the village, we still have the small community atmosphere so it is still friendly and helpful. The village hall (two halls with two rooms each) is almost fully booked all week and the church community hall is also busy. Everything is run on a voluntary basis.

        When covid started the people that live along our road, who are almost all elderly, twenty with dwellings spread over a mile along it - half on one side of the road and half on the other - received a visit from two young women from the village asking if we needed any shopping or anything done and gave us their phone numbers. Although a wrinkly myself I was running my own meals on wheels service for a few who needed it.

        People here still look after others. I even need help sometimes when I go to a plant nursery to buy compost (we get through a lot- 2,000-3,000litres) the nursery fill my bought for me (only takes six bags at a time) and someone living nearby comes and lifts it out and stacks it for me.

        When I was a kid in London almost everyone down our road looked after each other. I don't hear of that sort of thing now.
         
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        • Jiffy

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          I wish it was like that here, but if someone has a open house party you then hear commence like "we're ownly going for the free booze etc" i've never had a house party :biggrin:

          Also lots of untrue rummors, even just the other day i heard 2 rummor, 1 i think may be slightly true and the other is not so, 1 of the rummors also with 2 side's to it :rolleyespink:
           
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          • Philippa

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            @shiney your village community sounds much like ours:)
            @ViewAhead I think some people will think twice before blindly following all rules when the next pandemic occurs. The reason people often cite is the fact that so many MP's, Govt and other officials blatantly ignored the restrictions and rules they had bought in but expected the rest of the country to adhere too.
             
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              I strongly believe children know right from wrong even at an early age whatever their parents teach them or don't.
              I do agree many are totally selfish, and it's No1 always.
               
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                Our village sounds similar to yours, @shiney. Quite big and spread out, but the village hall and the Royal British Legion ( which serves in lieu of a village pub) are well supported, with something going on every day of the week. Lots of community spirit, and during Covid, volunteers offered help with shopping and prescriptions. I think sometimes I get overwhelmed by the negative slant of news sources, and forget that the reality, at least round here, is actually much better.
                 
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                • Thevictorian

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                  I'm not suggesting there aren't still nice people around here, most are quite pleasant but it seems a greater percentage of the population is just semi-oblivious to others. We are, by modern standards, still a smallish city and it's much worse elsewhere but there has been a very noticeable change in the last couple of decades. It's a bit like, you know you are in London because you say hello and they think you are going to mug them.
                  I've noticed it elsewhere. We like walking in the mountains and since covid made them more popular, there is rubbish everywhere from wild campers, vandalism to summits with memorials and people don't even look at you when they pass anymore, compared to a few years previous where it was spotless and everyone would say hello and even have a chat.
                   
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                  • pete

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                    I believe kids only know what they are taught from an early age, think about it, they know zero from day one, its only what they see and are told that sets them on the right path.
                    Learning surely starts on day one and progresses depending on what is happening around them.
                    I can train a dog, but left to its own devices it would be a nightmare.
                     
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                      Poeple just don't care any more (some do) It's my right to do what i want !!!!!!
                       
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                        Ah well, hear it here :)

                        Neighbours here knew each other either side, and those who'd been here a long time or whose children went to the same school all knew each other. But the COVID lockdown brought us all together much more, with people dropping food and supplies for those self-isolating, a weekly pavement concert by several of the musical children, and basic checking up on each other. It has continued, with regular help offered for moving furniture, sharing gluts of fruit or vegetables, a welcome for anyone new moving in, occasional social events (barbecue next week), a street carol singsong at Christmas, etc etc.
                         
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                        • Thevictorian

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                          I know research has been done into kids lying and on average they only begin to fib at the age of about 4, it's downhill from there:whistle:

                          There is also a slightly, for some, disturbing video of young children/babies surrounded by a giant snake. They have no fear of it as it's a learned behaviour (the adults are kept away so the babies can't see their fear response). The only fears kids are born with are a fear of falling and loud noises I believe. So I guess everything is learned as well. It's why a kid will happily play with another kid, no matter their race or disability, until predjudice is taught to them.
                           
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                            I was driving down the road earlier today. There was a building supplies delivery lorry parked on the other side of the road which left just enough room for me to drive by carefully. I was about half way along the lorry when a dozy woman on a pushbike decided there was room for her to get between me and the lorry. There clearly wasn't and I blasted my horn at her. She stopped and was then waving her hand at me to back up! It didn't go well for her. I don't think she'd ever tried to reverse her bike before.
                             
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                              I agree that kids brought up with no fear of creatures seem to get on well with them.

                              I have some very old colour slide photos (now converted), at least 45 years ago, that I took when with a family in a small village up the Amazon. The kids in one of the huts had a young pet alligator and a fully grown pet snake. :hate-shocked:

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                              and Mrs Shiney, 15 years ago when we went back there, holding a Tarantula. She gets on with all the animal world.

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                                Glad I wasn't there - any one of those 'pets' would have freaked me out!
                                 
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