Latest Moan From You and Me 2025

Poverty does not mean you end up bad, that is often an excuse used.

I do believe discipline and respect are pretty much missing these days, it's quite exceptional to find well mannered kids.

I do think crime is bred through lack of both of those along with drugs which are probably the biggest problem.

Worst I did was smoke the odd cigarette when I was about 10 and was scared of getting caught, these days they wouldn't be bothered, mostly vaping now though.

 

I agree about discipline and lack of respect. I was chatting to my neighbour across the way [he brought over his grass clippings for my compost bin] and we were talking about that. The lack of consideration and responsibility everywhere is depressing, whether it's bad driving, littering or general crime, graffiti and vandalism.
I also worked with young children - many years ago when my own were both at school. 3 year olds. It would have made your hair curl - mainly because of the stuff those children were clearly getting away with at home. There's a family near me, and one of the children was there. He didn't recognise me when I called him out by his name when he was messing about around my car with his pals. I could see the confusion on his face. The whole family is feral.
I generally find the older teenagers are a bit better behaved than the ones at the top end of primary school - maybe they've got it out of their system! However, the ones I see on those r*ddy electric scooters, illegally riding on pavements [and in shops] are the pits. I had to fill in a police survey a couple of days ago, which I presume is a result of the bloke who drove into me in the B&Q car park. I made sure I told them about that behaviour, as well as all the other stuff that makes being a pedestrian so dangerous nowadays. I doubt anything will change though.
Ironically, there was an item on our news last night about these problems in a town which is regarded as one of the worst up here in all sorts of ways, but many of the residents mentioned it.

 

It is absolutely shocking, @fairygirl. If he had tweeted about beating up someone in a "protected" group, he would have got far longer in jail than he did for actual grievous harm.

 

In 25 years' time those children will be grown up, some of them will be doctors, nurses, care workers etc and you might be unlucky (or normal, most people don't stay completely healthy as they age) and need to rely on them to provide your medical care etc, even if you can afford to pay them to do it. Wouldn't you want them to have had a decent start in life and be caring and well-educated people?

 

Agree with @fairygirl . I don't have children but as well as taxes paid by my parents, someone else somewhere also paid for my schooling. I have never used an Ambulance or the Fire service for myself but they have to be paid for by all of us because they are there ( hopefully anyway ) when we do need them.

 

Just because someone who is a child now and might be looking after me in later years shouldn't mean I should keep them now

 

Whilst there is obviously an issue about over crowded prisons, that Yodel piece makes you wonder why some of these dangerous people are not subject to the same laws as these XLBully dogs...........muzzles, tight collars and very short leads. I suppose tho it may be difficult to find a responsible " owner" to take one on.

 

They also need to be castrated. Rather than a muzzle a Scald's Bridle may be.
Then they'd either thump you or kick your shins.

 

@shiney your photographs remind me of some Don McCullin's early pictures around London.

 

Here's a link to some of photos mainly from England.
in england don mccullin - Recherche Google

 

@NigelJ Castration did cross my mind - just didn't like to mention it

Re class sizes when I was at school........ the primary school I attended in the 50's was a small village school. Probably about 12 pupils in a class. The main teacher - Mrs. Dodds - was a large Scottish lady with grey hair and always dressed in blue. No one misbehaved in her class Class sizes at grammar school probably averaged 25 or 30 pupils and I don't particularly recall many problems there either. There is a primary school here in the village but the children appear to be well behaved and well taught. Not the same everywhere obviously.

 

You would hope that the wages they are paid to look after you at the time will be their recompense, rather than paying to bring them up from day one.

I think we all pay taxes and it goes towards their education, I'm not totally against the help money wise that parents get for children but they keep wanting to stop the two child cap, I believe.
That was brought in to foil all those "professional" parents we had some years ago, about 10 kids and just living on welfare, two houses being made into one to accommodate the tribe etc.