Latest Moan From You and Me 2025

I'm not talking about television programs but purely BBC News. For example this report:

South Shields 'fetishist' dumped soiled nappies at nurseries

Refers to the offender as "she". It's better than previous reports they made on this case, as at least this time they mention his real name.

And this one: widely reported at the time as a murder by a woman, "Woman murdered husband with sword".

Transgender woman, 71, killed partner with sword, jury finds.

"A post mortem concluded that he died from stab wounds and the trial previously heard that she killed him with a samurai sword."

Not Our Crimes.

 

Woke has gone beyond that now, and is primarily concerned with insisting that anyone can be whatever gender they want, or no gender at all, and that men should have access to female spaces.

 

I have tons of beautiful Bramley apples, grown on organic lines, in perfect condition, sitting in the cellar. I have tried the local food bank too and have been told that people can’t afford the cost of the fuel to cook them. I find that a bit hard to believe as a Bramley, peeled and chopped small and put in a pan with a dash of water takes barely more than a couple of minutes to cook.

 

People who join marches/demonstrations are perfectly within their rights to do so. I don't agree with violence or criminal damage but disruption in some form or another is essential. Rather like strikes by workers, if there is no impact felt somewhere along the line, it is ignored and therefore pointless.
I still fail to understand why anyone who supports the Palestinian people in either Gaza or the West Bank is considered to be anti semitic. The description is fast losing it's original ( and very important ) meaning and the current Israeli government is a prime mover in this. I haven't noticed those people here who protest against the UK govt are labelled anti Anglo saxon ists ( or whatever term you care to come up with ) - protesting against govt. policies and actions is a democratic right for every citizen.
Fanatics occur everywhere as do true terrorists and many of their actions are to be condemned but allowing your own govt to gradually get towards earning that label doesn't help anyone.

Time the world "woke" up I think

 

I did say it is now used as an insult @shiney by people who have no empathy for others.

That horrible oik that was shot the other day used it to describe the people who gave Michèle Obama a job in a big Chicago law firm. The fact that she has degrees from Harvard and Princeton whilst he was a community college dropout didn't register in his little racist brain.

 

He was assassinated ... and that should worry us all. He may well have been thoroughly dislikable and have held opinions most of us would be repelled by, but the answer is not gun fire. That will not change anybody's mind.

 

I confess I'd never heard of that Right wing Christian Coservative ( to give him his full title ! ) before the reports of his assasination the other day. I can't say shooting him was the best policy but did note that Trump said he hoped the suspect received the death penalty. It hasn't occurred to him to make any effort to reduce gun ownership in his country. When considered sensibly, the 2nd ( ? ) Amendment in the Constitution which is frequently cited is consistently misunderstood or misinterpreted by the strong gun lobby.

 

There are a lot of inaccurate quotes about what he believed. Some of it totally made up, other things taken out of context, and it all gets tweeted and retweeted without people checking the source.

For example, from Sky News:

The author Stephen King has apologised for claiming Charlie Kirk "advocated stoning gays to death".

"I apologise for saying Charlie Kirk advocated stoning gays. What he actually demonstrated was how some people cherry-pick Biblical passages," he said in a post on X.

I had never heard of him before he was shot. But from what I have seen since, he debated with all people and never advocated violence.

 

I hadn't heard of him either. Which just goes to show, shooting someone can actually end up giving wider coverage to their ideas, rather than achieving your aim of silencing an opponent.

 

I don’t read that kind of news either
Thanks goodness, a court spoke this year what a woman is.

 

I too had the impression that he was willing to discuss/debate various issues and certainly had plenty of admirers.
Agree with @ViewAhead that his death has probably achieved the opposite to what was intended.
I do find it strange that given his reputation/beliefs, he didn't appear to warrant any security. Seems odd that Trump's attempted "assasination" only resulted in a nicked ear whilst his pal was shot dead at the first attempt. Same scenario - well known individual speaking, man with rifle on a flat roof in the vicinity - one succeeded and the other didn't.
It's a weird world we find ourselves in that's for sure.

 

Indeed. His organisation, Turning Point, is reported to have received more than 180000 requests to start new chapters in the USA since his death.

 

As for protesters, there always seems to be the professional ones that infiltrate all marches and cause trouble, I often wonder if they are actually on one side or the other or even put in by the opposing side to cause resentment of any particular group.

The bunch of loonies that turn up at the Palestine action marches have to be the most idiotic of the whole lot, they can support Palestine without supporting a banned organisation.
Just proving a point I guess but downright stupid.

They only have to stop writing "action" after the word Palestine and they are doing nothing wrong.

 

The funniest thing about the Palestine marches is that all the gender activists have latched onto it, resulting in "Queers for Palestine". Totally ignoring the fact that they just wouldn't be tolerated in most Muslim societies at all. But holding conservative religious views is clearly only a problem if they are Christian ones.