Latest Moan From You and Me 2025

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  1. fairygirl

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    There was discussion the other day on the radio about Randy Andy [the pet name for him back in the day- God 'elp us] and a woman called in to say that she had personal experience of his entitled behaviour while she was a serving, including his very unpleasant behaviour towards a senior officer. She couldn't go into great detail as she didn't want to name that superior officer, which is understandable. She was very diplomatic about what she said, but it was clear what she really thought of him, and it would no doubt have included lots of sweary words.
    It must have made life very difficult for those who were involved with him, and had to put up with him, at that time, because no one would have dared spoken out due to who he was. He was being hailed as the great war hero too, which didn't help.

    I'm not commenting on the horse thing. I have decades of experience of breaking and working with lots of very difficult horses and ponies, and also those which simply aren't properly trained and ridden. It isn't always as simple as it looks.
     
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    • KT53

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      Even Andrew has at least one redeeming feature. He was a helicopter pilot during the Falklands War so did see very active service. Maybe an odd coincidence, but the only other member of the Royal Family to see active service since WWII is Harry. One very black sheep and one possibly dark grey.
       
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        Well, I am going to be that guy today and just say it... I am sick to death of there being stabbings, shootings and rapes on the streets and public transport of this country. At what point are we going to admit to ourselves that we've got a massive problem and actually DO something?
         
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          I think if a DNA test were done on one of them, no connection to royal lineage would be found.
           
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            Isn't that now Andrew formerly known as Prince? :heehee:
             
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              Wail till it gets worse then do something and ask for more money which seem to be the way things are
               
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                First, stop calling it a "war on terror". Second, don't refer to such incidents as "terror related". It bigs up the whole idea that ordinary people can be held hostage to random violence.

                Instead, label it GBH or murder. Give no publicity to the suspect's possible motives. Allow citizens to come to terms with the fact that random violence is just one of those things, like car accidents or dog attacks or thunder bolts. There is no such thing as "safety" if you are alive. Dangers are an inevitable fact of existence. Don't allow the media to run with the story for days or politicians to make political capital out of it.

                In other words, remove all the oxygen from the situation. Yes, some people were stabbed on a train yesterday ... and some others died in car accidents or incidents at home or negligence in a hospital or due to low manufacturing standards half way across the globe or overdoses or alcohol poisoning, etc, etc.
                 
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                  "Random violence is just one of those things" - - really?? Sounds very much like giving into the violence to me. In that case, I best just carry my kitchen knife with me wherever I go and invest in a stab vest.
                   
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                    I think we are beginning to see where some of the people in the USA are coming from, self defence has never really been acceptable in the UK.
                    If someone comes at you with a machete you are allowed to ward them off with a chair, if you have one handy, anything more lethal than that and you will get prosecuted, probably in a more intensive way than the aggressor.

                    Actually hurt the aggressor and its GBH.
                     
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                      They were talking this morning about taking his medals away that he got during his service in the Navy.
                      To me that's going one step too far, do all service personnel have their medals taken away if they commit a crime, and lets face it, he's not been convicted of anything yet, or admitted anything.
                       
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                        I don't think a DNA test is required. Just look as few photo's of Princess Diana's friends.
                         
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                          I agree that would be excessive.
                           
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                            You can't stop it. Even if you poured all tax into trying, you just cannot have defences on every street corner 24/7. Look at gun crime in the States. More guns = more violent deaths. It is inevitable.

                            Go about your normal life without being cowed by what the media focuses on. You may live to 50 or you may get to 90. You may be murdered or you may die in bed. The only way to guarantee the latter is to never get up in the morning. More people get killed by governments than by random violent individuals, the only difference being we collude with the former and get enraged by the latter.
                             
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                              You can't stop it, but you can reduce it. Get caught carrying a knife, minimum 10 years... use it, minimum 40. We can pour absolute fortunes into speed cameras, box junction cameras, ULEZ cameras... we're even catching and fining people for pouring coffee down a drain or walking with a dog without a poo bag, yet we cannot catch and successfully prosecute folks going around with machetes?
                               
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                                In the UK a woman is killed by a man, usually a partner, ex or other family member, every 3 days.

                                It doesn't go reported or even register as a major crime wave.

                                It seems to me that we in the west are not sufficiently aware to realise the importance of teaching kindness and empathy to children from the very start of their lives. It would go a long way to reducing thoughtlessness as well as active cruelty to all living things.

                                If you care to look at more recent photos, Harry looks more and more like Charles tho it wouldn't matter much as he's managed to alienate so many of his immediate family and the public.
                                 
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