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  1. Thevictorian

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    I seem to remember a Louis Theroux documentary where he went to a hunting lodge in Africa. It's been a very long time since I saw it but I seem to remember the trophy animals were farmed for the people to then hunt in a controlled environment.

    Edit it's available here

    BBC Two - Louis Theroux, African Hunting Holiday

    I found the whole thing horrendous but they were suggesting, as mentioned earlier in the discussion, that it was "ethical", in their eyes, because it put a value on the species and was a way to protect them.


    The uk brought in a law meaning that anyone who brought in trophy kills could face 5 years in prison. It doesn't matter if they are wild or captive kills and covers over 7000 species from endangered to just threatened.
     
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      My cousin lives in the new forest and they have to cull the deer simply because the population is so high that in a bad year, they can simply starve. To get a license to cull them he had to go through a very rigorous test and prove that he could kill them in one shot. He now longer does it bit it's an important part of managing the forest.

      I remember reading that in Scotland, they couldn't get rid of the venison because it simply wasn't wanted. They had something like millions of pounds worth stored frozen at one point. That seemed ludicrous to me because it's one of the healthiest meats there is.
       
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        Funny, we're getting lots of phone calls for meats today :dunno: i know our number is close to a butchers but it's geting silly, i may start taking orders just for the hell of it and not deliver the goods as i don't have any :dbgrtmb: may up set a few people :biggrin:
         
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          I used to have a similar number to a local greengrocer, @Jiffy, and would come home to an answerphone full of long orders for cabbages, carrots, etc. :biggrin: And then I had one a single digit away from a GP surgery and people used to ring me for their test results.
           
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            Years ago I was working in a call centre and one memorable day BT mixed up lines and we started to get calls meant for a fire station. It must have been quite confusing for unaffected callers when the team answered their call with "Thank you for calling XXX. Is your house on fire?" :biggrin:

            We didn't get any emergencies, most callers were after a fire safety inspection or similar.

            There were other telephoby mishaps as well, BT said that the cables around the building were affected by wet ground during the winter. :noidea:
             
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              @ViewAhead presumably you told those awaiting test results that you were too busy with your Veg orders ? Either that or that their results showed they needed to consume more veg and that you could help with that :biggrin:
               
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                Culling of some species did ( maybe still does? ) occur in zoos and wildlife parks here...... not publicised tho for obvious reasons.

                Whilst I can understand people from different cultures who move to the UK for whatever reason have a right to their cultural practices, they shoud accept the laws of the country they are living in. Halal ? Sharia law ? Where do we draw the line ? It's definitely a bit wavy at present.
                 
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                  Laws are rubbish, A land owner reported to the police about some people hare couring on his land, police came and people got nicked,
                  Same land owner has given permision for hunt to use his land, the hunt has 2 packs of dogs 1 for fox hunting and 1 for hare hunting, now when hunt goes hare hunting there isn't any reports to the police :thud::coffee:
                   
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                    Mrs Shiney once phoned to their company head office in America and got through to Mission Control Flight Commander in Houston during a space launch! She had a nice chat with him and could hear all the launch details in the background. :heehee:
                     
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                      Love it! I can just imagine your OH quite calmly and nonchalantly having a wee chat whilst the space launch was going ahead in the background:) Incredible…




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                        There is a definite distinction between trophy hunting and culling, the two are not even on the same page in my opinion.
                        Culling is, or should be, a last resort to stop starvation or to take out old or sick animals, trophy hunting belongs in history.

                        I must admit I do get a bit fed up when the conservationists complain about farmers in Africa and other places killing animals that are ruining their crops, bearing in mind they have been trying to wipe out badgers here for years and historically the farmers and upper crust have done it for years in this country.
                         
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                          When I was working out in S. Africa in the early 60's there was a village not too far from the town where my friend lived that had trouble with some leopards that were killing their livestock. They had been trying to frighten them away with drumming that worked to a certain extent but then one of the village kids was killed by them. That's when they asked for help.

                          My friend and I, who could both handle rifles quite well, were recruited to the hunting party. The only trouble was that they were going out on horseback, which they didn't tell me, and I had never ridden a horse before! They gave me the most docile horse which was quite happy to just follow the others. We saw one of the leopards and I took a shot at it. The next thing I knew was that I was laying on my back on the ground. The horse hadn't moved but had turned his head round to look at me and I could swear he was laughing at me!
                           
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                            When she found out where she had got through to she apologised and said she would hang up but the Commander told her to hang on as he loved her English accent and started chatting about his next holiday which was going to be in London. :heehee:
                             
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                              What an experience. A million to one that would ever happen again.:spinning:
                               
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