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    Whilst I see the point being made, that falls apart in reality as there are many women who are simply looking to get their leg over and they do not care from who. Sure, there are some who are somewhat more choosy, just as there are men (I am one!) - over the years, I've seen both men and women who could most kindly be described as 'randy', in almost equal number. I worked with one particular woman who had a nickname of 'Flora' (spreads easily) and she was actually proud of the fact.
     
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      I'm not at all sure that was what she was actually saying. I've reread it and still have difficulty interpreting it that way.

      I certainly understand what you have said and agree with that paragraph.

      The rest of what you say, although definitely possible, is a poor and sad interpretation of what can happen but is not necessarily a very widespread thing and not just a one way street. For myself, I have been very happily married for over 60 years and never strayed - and am happy to admit that I can mentally admire lovely females without wishing to stray. A lot of the men I know also seem to fit that category.
       
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        @Fat Controller, of course people fall along a spectrum from promiscuous to abstaining, and reliable contraception has moved the parameters somewhat, but I do think women and men are primed by evolution to want different things from sex.

        My guess is men who pay for sex think along the lines of "what's the problem - this woman has made herself available and I am giving her a reward for doing so". Woman, on the other hand, may not see it as quite such a simple transaction, even if at the time they accept it at face value. In later yrs, they may feel they were used and did not get what they hoped for from the exchange. (This is assuming they consented. Rape is a different matter, of course.)

        @shiney, of course, there are many monogamous men. My father worked for a large corporation and frequently went on business trips abroad. In certain countries it was absolutely standard for him to be offered a "companion" for the night. He always politely turned this down, to the astonishment of his male hosts.
         
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        I've just been reminded that 2026 is an important 250th anniversary.
        Anybody want to have a guess?
        Will post answer later if I remembers.
         
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          Having never paid for sex, nor strayed from a relationship, I wouldn't have a clue about the transactional nature in that sense. I can think of three occasions from my younger life where I was with a woman and it was indeed her that instigated things and to use the local term, by their own admission they were 'ganting for it' - - and there were quite a few other propositions that were not taken up, along the way.
           
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          “It happened before you were even a twinkle in your father’s eye” used to be something that was said in my youth.
           
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            July 4th
             
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            That happens every year.

            I think I got it right, get the champers out :biggrin:

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                Nah, that happens every year and for more than 250 years ;)



                Is it the invention of baking cakes and scones? :biggrin:
                 
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                  Nah, that was happening before King Alfred's time, way longer than 250 yrs ago! :biggrin:
                   
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                    Yes, agree my dear. And add to it Globally women need to value strongly their biological contribution to humankind and not put up with any servitude environments. Looking at it logically it takes a heap more women needed to make babies than males. Women Power.

                    Now, I am off to another travel adventure, will be gone till March 18. Later.
                     
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                    JD Vance, the fake Catholic conversion who does not understand the basic cocepts of Christianity, has gone all the way to Rome to give the Pope a personal invitation to the party. The Pope has politely declined and will be spending July 4th on Lamepdusa, the Italian island which is the forst port of call for many migrants crossing from North Africa.

                    The Pope has made migration and immigrants a key focus for the RC church and has publicly denounced Trump/Vance policies as cruel and inhuman and instructed his bishops in the US to denounce ICE and co.
                     
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                      Women bearing 5,6,7 or more children are not unusual even now. Not all will survive to become adults particularly in countries where contraception aid, maternal and general health care is poor or non existent as well as a poor economy. Men can obviously father many times that number and it can be somewhat easier to walk away if so inclined. Not all fall into that category tho.
                      I still find it quite astonishing that in this day and age abortion is still prohibited in places. Rather like the Assisted Dying saga which is still ongoing here. In both cases, it's your body and therefore should be your choice. No one needs to be told what is best for them in either circumstance.
                       
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