Is this apple?

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  1. Iresha

    Iresha Apprentice Gardener

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    Hi There,

    I'm new to this forum. Please help me to identify this tree. I thought it's apple, but need to confirm it. Picture is taken last week. Any help or thought wold be much appreciated. Thanks !
     

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    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I'd say no.

    But it could be a pear
     
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      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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      Good point surfer:dbgrtmb:

      I thought they looked a bit shiny?

      Strange shape for a cherry perhaps?
       
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        Just been looking at my trees (+ a friends pear).

        Not an apple - no calyx, stem too long and branches too twiggy.

        Not a pear - no calyx, leaves wrong shape and branches too twiggy.

        Not a quince - no calyx and stems too long.

        Not a cherry - leaves wrong shape.

        Not a damson - stems too long. But could it be some kind of long stemmed plum?

        But if the stone is flat & oval it could be a plum.
         
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            In the 1st pic is some young damson fruits about 30 mins ago (have attached pic as pb seems 'down' at the moment). They seem further progressed than in post #1 as the last remnants of old flowers disappeared from these trees weeks ago. But the fruit stems are much shorter.


            And the 2nd pic is of cherries showing differently shaped leaves and longer fruit stems plus being much further advanced with ripening.
             

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              I would have said either a plum or gage.:dbgrtmb:
               
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                Here's a pic of some local cherry (myrobalan) plums taken a couple of weeks ago.
                 

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                  I think it's more closer to your pic 1 and hence could be damson. Just took some more pics for all your pro openions :dbgrtmb:. As said by most people, fruit came inside the flower (not from the bottom). Also it's still very small and about 15mm.

                  Many Thanks for all who replied :) (handfull of info in no time).
                  Since I just started gardening, I think I'm in the best possible forum with best people :love30:
                   

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                  It's not looking so much like a plum to me any more. Have you cut one open to see if it has a stone?
                   
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                  Yes, I've cut open one and it's in picture 1 in last post. It don't have stone. Thanks!
                   
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                  Sorry, only just noticed that image.

                  That image looks like there's a soft, immature stone that's not fully formed yet. I cut a damson this morning and the stone was starting to harden up, then went for a walk to where cherry plums grow and picked a couple:

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                  And comparing that with your pic

                  http://gardenerscorner.co.uk/forum/attachments/identification-area/637d1306090133-apple-image1.jpg


                  I reckon you've got cherry plums (but slightly behind the ones where I live).
                   
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                    Thanks Scrungee. Now I'm bit confused. Yesterday, I met old owner of my house and according to him it's Damson and they used to make jam :)

                    If your pic is cherry plum he's also wrong. According to wiki, even more confusing :scratch:

                    Cherry plum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                    Damson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                     
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                    Perhaps only time will reveal exactly which type of plum it is now, but the Wiki illustration of damsons appears just how I expect them to be, with much shorter stems on the fruit than in your pics. But the Wiki illustration of cherry plums shows only one of the multitude of their colours and shapes. The shapes range from round like cherries to elongated, and can be yellow, red, purple or even multi-coloured. They also vary in size between about 50 and 100 to the pound.

                    I expect to be picking cherry plums around July, but (wild) damsons much later.
                     
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