Nature abhors a vacuum

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  1. gavintarrant

    gavintarrant Gardener

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    Hi

    With all of the Vinca Major long since gone new things are appearing. Good or bad I'm not sure. Can you tell me please what I've got here?

    thanks again for all of your help. Hopefully someday I'll be able to help someone as much as you've all helped me.

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      Don't know what 2 is but agree with Silver Surfer about the others.
       
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      Hi Gavin I agree with SS about 1,3 & 4, as she says 2 could be a wild violets, but to me 2 looks just like my Lesser Celandine leaves.. What do you think.?
      OK I have been trying to find a couple of close up pics violets
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      Celandines mainly at the bottom of the pic
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      If Nature abhors a vacuum, whats all that between the stars then?
       
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      • gavintarrant

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        Hi and thank you :)

        Especially Silver Surfer for the weeds link - I think I may be using this a lot.
        1. Elder - I don't want anything 4m-6m tall there so that's going!
        2. Wild Violet vs Lesser Celandine. They do look very similar. My leaves shape do look more like the latter though my leaves are matt not shiny like the LC leaves appear in the photos. I could wait until they bloom but I read that violets are highly invasive and regarded as weeds so if they are I should get rid asap. Lesser celandine I would want to keep? Is there any other way to be sure apart from waiting?
        3. Deadnettle - so I should dig up
        4. Forget me not - lovely so I'll keep :)

        thanks again
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        If your pic is recent, then you can rule out Ranunculus ficaria, common name lesser celandine.
        This is a spring flower, with shiney leaves. By June every trace of it has gone. Just bare soil.
        Leaving underneath the soil the fat white tuberous root things that will emerge again next spring.
        Impossible to eradicate .. just one white tuber, if left behind, will form a new plant!
        But as it is summer dormant I do not mind. Flowers are colourful.

        Ranunculus ficaria, - Google Search

        Photo Tuberous roots of lesser celadine (Ranunculus ficaria) with secateurs - 428287 - Plant and garden images - botanikfoto

        I am not happy with Violet suggestion either!
         
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        Hi, I'm pretty sure no.2 is not celendine (a plant I love by the way :thumb:) and I don't think it's a wild vioilet either, the leaves look too 'soft' and slightly downy. I do recognise it, just can't put a name to it (not much use I know :D), I had it my old garden along the hedge, if its the same one its a biennial.

        I'll keep thinking :thumb:
         
      • gavintarrant

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        I took the photo 3 hours ago so that seems to rule out Lesser Celandine I guess. It has grown quite quickly over the past few weeks if that helps. Is there anything else I can look at or do to help narrow it down?
         
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        Does it smell of anything?
         
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        Not sure about no.3 being a Deadnettle, looks more like Lemon Balm (Melissa officinalis) to me.
        Sure way to tell is to rub the leaves between your fingers, if it smells of lemon it's Lemon Balm.
         
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        Silver surfer - thank you - thats a superb site for weeds. And the rest looks interesting too - but I haven't properly explored yet.

        Is it anything to do with you?
         
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