Blue Rose (blue moon)

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    Hi guys , I`ve been read of this rose for a while along with many peoples saying that `s it not actually blue and should be even called blue rose.
    Did anyone tryed one? any pictures?
     
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    Ive grown some green ones from seed but they are only 6 month old at this time so it will be a while before i find out what colour they actually are :)
     
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    I had one many years ago sal73. it was a pale blue with a slight pinkish hew to it. I believe there is another type of 'Blue Moon' available now and I can't help you with that, sorry.
     
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      It isn't really blue more like a bluey lilac colour but the scent is wonderful!!! :wub2:

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        i`m not a fan of roses , but i like roses it`s just a curiosity ...if they really look like this.

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        Jools what kind of green roses have you planted?
         
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        No they don't look like that Sal. The picture has been enhanced.
         
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          Sheal have you got any picture? I`m looking on internet and they are all enhanced.
           
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          I know the old blue moon was far from blue as a relative had it a few years ago, but as to if there is a new version than I can't be of any help :redface:
           
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          The true blue was made in 2004 in a Japanese lab by a wiscky company with cell of iris and pansy , then imported and many new bread are coming out , but most of the new one have nothing to resemble the blue/liliac of the original rose.
           
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            There is no known true blue roses in existence the majority are lilac in colour,I have the old" Blue Moon" Hybrid tea rose,which is very prone to disease,and I have the more recent "Once in a Blue Moon" which was bred from the old Blue Moon and is much more disease resistance:)
             
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              Thank you wiseoldowl , have you got any pictures? I`m really curious to see a picture.
              also did you read about the new israely and china project about a real blue rose?
              apparently will come out this year and it will be a true blue rose.
              an OGM anyway
               
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              Good evening Sal yes I have read about the Israel/China project but that still won't be a true blue rose,a true blue rose has been the "holy grail" of rose breeders for hundreds of years, however roses simply do not have the genes to produce a blue colour. You may have seen photos of a "blue" rose on the Internet - these are fakes,
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              Good evening wiseoldowl , my curiosity is to see a blue rose in real life , the pictures on internet are all touched up ......the rose can not ever produce a blue rose just because blue is a primiry color along with yellow and red ......with the combination of this 3 color you can produce all the color in the world .

              the china/israel project it will be another genetically modify rose with color cell extract from a different blue flower .
              Not kine about that but there is worst out there .
               
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              Sorry sal, no picture. I owned this rose more than twenty years ago and as Woo says they were prone to disease. I must say though colour wise it was the closest I've seen to true blue, I can still remember it now. :) As you say, all the pictures on the internet are enhanced.

              It is best to be aware that most plants not just roses that are pictured on the internet, do not depict the true colour of the plants.
               
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                Good morning Sal why not try a little experiment;) The rose turns blue because the rose has a system similar to the human circulatory system, which pumps blood through the body. The rose has what is called a vascular system, which pulls up water from the base of the stem and circulates it throughout the rose. Because the water is colored with food coloring, the petals will turn blue as they fill up with the blue water

                Rose petals contain a chemical called the oxonium salt of cyanin; when added to water with a high pH, between 7 and 14, this chemical will turn blue. Another liquid that has a high pH that will also make the rose petals turn blue is a mixture of one part ammonia and one part sodium hydroxide. Adding rose petals to a solution can help determine if the solution ranges between acidic and basic. :) Genetically Produced Blue Roses
                There are no blue roses found in nature, but a Japanese company, Suntory, has spent years experi menting to genetically produce a blue rose by implanting the plant pigment delphinidin into the rose. Illustrations found online are dubious, in that the rose is still more violet than blue:)
                 
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