Betwixt and between....help please!

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  1. Sheal

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    I have an eight year old dishwasher that has given up the ghost today and it looks like it's 'brains' have gone. The thing is I can't decide whether to get shot and buy a new one or have it's 'brains' replaced.

    We have booked for someone to come and take a look at it and call out alone is £55, if it needs a new 'board' that could cost up to £130 just for the parts. I've been weighing this up against the cost of a new machine and considering my ones age, I'm wondering if I'll be throwing good money away if I have it repaired. What do you think please?
     
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    I think its good that you're even asking this Sheal, because we live in a 'throw away' society these days.

    Daft question, but do you know it's main board is dead? Does the machine do anything at all?

    Personally, anything more than a failed fused or other such triviality, and I'd bin it and get a new or second hand one. £130 parts plus £55 call out = £185 to have an 8 year old dish washer put right. But then if it fails again but with a different fault a week later, then you've lost your money. Whereas £185 will get you a brand new dish washer (maybe not top of the range though), with at least a year's guarantee on it.
     
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      Sheesh, Sheal. I had one in the States in 1996 in Alabama where houses are built up on 'crawl spaces'. I put it on one night and got up in the morning and fell over in the kitchen .. why, because the dishwash had overheated and burst and went under the kitchen/dining area and ruined the entire kitchen. Fast forward: insurance paid but we had to do without a kitchen/dining area for a week. Have I had a dishwasher since ... NO ...

      Nowadays, since we are retired, we don't need such. Other than the fact we eat out at least three times a week and being in a 'hot' country we don't cook a lot ... there's not a lot of dishes to do. And I have to admit that t'other half does the washing up when I do the cooking .. what a darling he is. xx
       
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        Thanks Clueless. It stopped mid wash and won't do anything. Being digital all the lights went out apart from the one for the on/off button, so it's not a problem with the leccy. The chap we spoke to today suggested it was probably the main board, but you never know whether to believe them or not. That said, I think it probably is the board, I don't see what else it could be. :scratch:

        I look after my appliances and don't throw anything away if I think it's reasonable to have it repaired. I will be paying around £300 for a new machine. You get what you pay for these days! :)
         
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        Victoria, sorry to hear of your experience. I've learnt my lesson with appliances in the past. I use them during waking hours and don't go out if there on. Tumble dryers shouldn't be left anyway, they're high risk with regards fires.
         
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          Whoops, have to correct what I said ... it was 1976 ... I cannot believe I said something 20 years off ... but obviously I did .. :scratch::doh::pcthwack:
           
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            Sheal, much as I am all for repairing wherever possible, at the age of your machine I would be inclined to give it a pat on the back for faithful service and invest in a new one.

            The difficulty with dishwashers is that they have to cope with working at fairly high temperatures, and no matter how hard you try they will always eventually succumb to deposits of limescale/food/detergents over time.

            The trouble is, there is no way to find out what is wrong without someone taking a proper look at it, and equally there is no way to properly assess its general condition without it being stripped down - - - however, I would be reluctant to spend money on investigation, not least as the cost of doing so partly commits you to repairing it; besides that, newer machines are much more efficient than the older ones, both in terms of electricity and water consumption.

            You can pick up new ones really cheaply nowadays, however I still think its worth paying a wee bit more to get a bit more quality/longevity - personally, I wouldn't go past Bosch for home appliances, and even they are available for less than £300 although admittedly, there will be an additional charge for delivery to the island.
             
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            Another Bosch fan here!! :thumbsup:

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            My only experience of Bosch is that Bosch do all the electronics for original Volvo, and original Volvos are known for insane levels of reliability and longevity.
             
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              FC.....thanks for your input. I have no problems with limescale etc. as I live in a soft water area, no need to use salts and such like either, however I did give my machine a run through with cleaner every so often. As I said to Clueless, I do look after my machines as best as I can. But you are right, we will probably cancel the call out appointment tomorrow and shop for a new one. :)

              Clueless.....it's a shame Volvo don't make dishwashers! :heehee:
               
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              Ah, but the clever people behind Volvo electrics do - Bosch ;)

              For what it's worth Sheal, I think you are doing the right thing.

              Happy hunting :)
               
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                Mine started to leave cloudy deposits on the glasses - called in the man to look at it - he said the life span of a dishwasher if used daily (which mine is) is 5 years :huh: - mine was nearly 8 years old - so I got a new one - middling price - not the cheapest nor the dearest and a slimline one which is plenty for just the two of us. Unfortunately this new one does not seem tall enough inside to take my larger plates - don't know why or if a more expensive one would have given me more space - something I will definitely be looking into next time it goes.
                All I know is I couldn't live without it :wub2:

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                  Its funny, isn't it - for years, I resisted having a dishwasher and a tumble dryer as they were little more than a waste of electricity as far as I was concerned. We inherited a knackered old Hotpoint dishwasher when we moved into our last house, and replaced it with our current one a few months later, and bought a tumble dryer when we moved into this house, and I wouldn't hesitate to replace either of them if they failed tomorrow.

                  Mind you, we did our usual and bought models quite well up the range that are hyper-efficient (although expensive), which helps a bit and I reckon that doing so has also given us some longevity too.

                  Our Bosch dishwasher is nearly 5 years old now, and is still as good as new, the Bosch washing machine is of a similar age and is equally fresh (it gets properly thumped with loads of washing every week), and the tumble dryer is a godsend - better still, the cost of the tumble dryer is most offset by not having to iron stuff (its one of those A++ rated things that runs on as little 'leccy as possible).

                  Definitely worth paying that wee bit more for domestic appliances in my book.
                   
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                  We went for years without a dishwasher and this one that we have now is our first one. We ummed and ahhed whether to have another one, but decided yes even though there's only the two of us now.

                  I also have an eleven year old Miele washing machine that is still going strong. I needed that when I still had my family at home as I was wearing a machine out in two and a half years, doing a minimum of ten washes a week. My Miele has more than paid for it's original cost. :)

                  I have a Siemens tumble dryer that I hate and I don't think it will ever pack up, it's very temperamental. It's the first sensor dryer I've had and I would never have another one as it won't dry small quantities and doesn't sense that the items in the centre are still damp. A dryer is also a must here on the island, we have high rainfall here and washing doesn't make it outside very often to dry.
                   
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                    Sheal, I get to dry outside but still tumble them for a couple of minutes to get rid of any "weedlies" as I call them, aka insects. Have been in bed and an earwig appeared from inside a pillow case :eeew: even though I shake them before bringing in.

                    FC I suppose the old saying you get what you pay for applies - saying that, my washing machine is next on the list to go already had one repair - better start saving up :yikes:

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