What's happening to the US of A?

For tons of years now. The federal government has had its hands in providing Medical care for its Veterans. And that area has been horrid. In fact just today, I spoke with one that says its horrid. He keeps health insurance for "regular doctors" will not want the Veteran Medical care getting in involved with his care. I have in another position, been involved in "trying" to secure good care for veterans, its horrid.
So--here is what I am saying. If the government can't get taking care of their veterans RIGHT a smaller number. Then whats going to happen with the HUGE number now impacting this NEW system. And there are issues with the IRS, who are suppose to be the middleman with this NEW system. The IRS can't even handle what they are suppose to do, let alone now this. YEP, Mr. Obamanation says we should all get the care we need, YEP, but is that immediate, or are you the 500th on the list. Or how do they determine where on the list you are? And now doctors do not like the extra paperwork. I know they don't like the current paperwork involved with another product been here for past 40 years or so, they say the NEW system will have even more paperwork. So now doctors are talking about getting out all together of accepting any insurance and doing a "membership" thing directly with the person.
Now there is talk about taxing any medical equipment needed for a person, still unclear about that.
This is going to be fun.
A couple articles on some of the ObamaCare costs ...

http://www.libertynews.com/2013/05/obamacare-low-enrollment-high-cost/

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/obamacare-higher-costs-lower-quality

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/a/SB10001424052970203335504578086702676417058?mg=reno64-wsj

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/03/...-admits-obamacare-is-raising-insurance-costs/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypi...higher-health-insurance-premiums-3000-higher/

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2013/02/13/obamacare-lowering-health-care-costs

http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...-back-away-from-higher-costs-of-obamacare.htm

 

The way I see it, probably wrongly,
but, its a bit like all those people over here that pay into BUPA etc., or get it free with their job, suddenly being told, they have to pay that money to the government and go on the waiting lists with everyone else.
Many who dont pay a penny into the system.

We are used to having loads of people getting something for nothing, we moan about it, but nothing gets done.

I can see why lots of Americans who have been paying their way for years are a bit reluctant to go down this road.

Dont get me wrong, the NHS is good, but at times it's totally chaotic, mainly because its being run on the cheap, and providing services it was not originally designed to do.

 

I believe so. And look how it turned out!

 

BUPA wont help you if you keel over having a heart attack. They only deal with non-emergency care.

In the case of the USA and Obama, its all academic anyway, because in the eyes of the world and presumably at home too, they are skint.

 

I've not seen many bodies of heart attack victims littering the streets of the US.
We are all skint possibly with the exception of China and Germany.

 

America was not shut down properly.
Would you like to start America in safe mode, with free healthcare & without the guns? (Recommended)

 

#press any raw nerve to continue#

 

Good to hear your take on all this Armandii. Originally when Obama and McCain ran, I did not like either choice. Kept thinking in all of America this is only what we have. Then I thought perhaps there is another agenda going on here, a hidden background thing. And I believe there are silent groups that really control who will run and who will not run. Found out one of the most richest man in the world backs Obama, his name is Maurice Strong, and he certainly is not the "American Dream" follower. When someone like him backs someone, you do ask for favors later. Not sure what all that means yet. Maybe what is happening is what it means, maybe not.

As far as Obama becoming a president because he was black. You probably don't know this, but many "black folks" who voted for Obama, had only voted for the first time in their life and they did because it was a "black " person . Not because of what he stood for or his abilities. I am told they "black" people were bussed into areas just to vote. And as Obama has relationships with the Unions here, he made promises to many Unions that if you get me in office I will give you such and such. Well now told he can't give them those promises. So many unions are upset with him.

Obama is suppose to be a constitutional professor, yet in a speech he gave recently he said our constitution was a democratic one, IT is republic one. The pres does not even know his constitution. Well, its 3:35Am should try to get back to sleep.

Oh, yes regarding Obamacare. IF the Medical services were grand and wonderful for the Veterans which is controlled by the government, I'd be really thrilled. But quite the opposite . Waiting for the stories unfolding with this one.

 

My understanding is that there is an agreement on what happens at times when they can't agree. Same as the "fiscal cliff" (when they can't agree on a budget). A long time ago they agreed, and past into Law, what would happen if ever they could not agree (government departments close / police still patrol, and so on).

Seems like a lot more than that - well, according to our news, over here, and I have no trust in the majority of reporters (selling Copy being more important than the accuracy of that Copy). For example that if not resolved promptly rubbish will stop being collected - I wonder if that is truth or reporter-fiction?

Can't see that happening C1. That's a Socialist view and in USA you have two main parties - one is Right of centre, and then the other is a bit further Right of that!

My 2p on that is the people in the BUPA system are paying twice (or their employers are). They are paying tax for NHS and then not using [parts of it] because they use their Bupa subscription/insurance for hospital the other part instead. If you took all the Bupa money and gave it to the NHS there is the same amount of money, and the same number of treatments required. Or maybe that is what you meant? The only difference is that I (say) would have to wait for my X-ray, being 500th in the queue, rather than being able to have it done this afternoon and be back at work by tea time - which is precisely why I have private health care, I don't want to spend time hanging about waiting for non-essential diagnosis and treatments; I have never had an appointment at the NHS that didn't involve me waiting long past the appointed time; with private health care I have never not been seen at the appointed time - how hard is it to run an appointment system?)

Here's how I see it:

Obama was elected on a manifesto of introducing Obamacare. In the UK if our Lower/Upper houses reach deadlock on something, and if it was a manifesto pledge, then it goes through. Period. Its what the democratic people voted for. They fact that 49.999% of the people may think it stinks is irrelevant.

I also think that USA is making itself look foolish in the rest of the world (they do seem to get away with doing that though).

I would love to find an economist who could explain to me (in words of one syllable!!) how a country can borrow increasing amounts indefinitely - and why my bank does not operate the same policy for me

 

I wish I would have written that. Outstanding Armandii, take a bow

 

Yep, the borrowing busines bothers me too. I just don't get it either. And then the giving it to Egypt---WHY? One day China will want some State here in return.
And I agree, I can't trust any news reporter, its hard to weed through all the crap and to find the real truth. Everyone has hidden agendas. I think that phrase "Follow the money trail" it the only truth. Sadly, I feel the USA is going to pot.

 

If it makes you feel better we are in exactly the same boat. We continue to give aid to countries that we either think we shouldn't need to, or that we should say "Sorry, times are hard, we can't help just now"

We rarely hear how much the government is borrowing ("The National Debt"), they just talk about reducing the "deficit" - you'd think that would be reducing the amount we owe, but its actually the amount that the overall debt increases each year.

In 2009 our deficit (the amount of additional borrowing) was £156B , since then it has been coming down (I can't seem to find a forecast for 2013, but it is in the region of £100B) - so we haven't cut it by much, i.e. we are still increasing the amount of national debt by £100B each year :( )

Race you to the bottom :(

 

And it just begun. LOVE it.

http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-fines-to-be-seized-from-bank-accounts/